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    Quote Originally Posted by CaladanCid View Post
    Let's face facts, if GW had done something like this everyone would be freaking out but PP gets a free pass.
    What some are forgetting is that PPS allowed wicken to make the program at all. GW would do no such thing.

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    I've had an idea for those of us with laptops (but no tablet or a tablet with a small screen). I will be setting up a virtual machine to run Android on the tablet. That way, I can run Warroom on a decent size screen. Here's how to do it: http://youtu.be/gESIOrNUGKQ
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    And, here's an even better way to do it. http://www.android.pk/blog/tutorials...andwich-on-pc/
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    I don't mind the push back at all. It MIGHT be released on the day after my bday, so I can write off the expense as a birthday gift to myself. =)


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    Quote Originally Posted by aterdaeus View Post
    What some are forgetting is that PPS allowed wicken to make the program at all. GW would do no such thing.
    A million times this...

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    War Room is an extra. It's not needed at all, in any way. Don't get me wrong. It'll be very useful and I plan on buying it, but the point is that PP doesn't have to release it at all. They gave use a great preview of a digital product still in development, their first digital product, and people are surprised that it is getting delayed? Is it really that big of a surprise it was delayed?

    I understand the disappointment, I was really hoping to have this app for Lock and Load. But think about it from PP's point of view. I have no doubt PP really wanted this for L&L as well but had to push it back do to what ever the reason is. All that hard work and they are forced to miss their hard release date. If they could get this app out, have it fully functional and live up to the high standards we have come to expect from PP, I'm sure they would.

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    PP, thanks for the hard work you are always putting in to every aspect of this game.

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    I recommend Forward Kommander while people wait. Is it perfect? Nope. But it does the job and it's free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliassmith27 View Post
    They gave use a great preview of a digital product still in development, their first digital product, and people are surprised that it is getting delayed?
    Well... this isn't their first digital product to be announced, but that one isn't out either, and it's been YEARS.
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    I love the game, and I am a big fan, BUT I am alittle upset that the date keeps getting pushed back. With every delay I care less and less about buying War Room. It's just getting harder and harder to muster any enthusiasm. I have some many other things that will need my hard earned money in July. Sigh...so unti the next delay I guess it's back to IBodger.





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    Quote Originally Posted by aterdaeus View Post
    What some are forgetting is that PPS allowed wicken to make the program at all. GW would do no such thing.
    Actually there is a free army builder for gGW called quartermaster. They let it happen, because he doesn't include the actual GW IP, but instead you have to enter that yourself. In addition all of the army list templates are available for download from a separate community resource that other people create. It's unfortunately a bit more convoluted than ibodger, but it works just as well, and allows anyone to modify the list builder unlike ibodger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnustheJust View Post
    The keyword here is...

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    ROAR! Frankly I'm tired of waiting.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leprousy View Post
    Actually there is a free army builder for gGW called quartermaster. They let it happen, because he doesn't include the actual GW IP, but instead you have to enter that yourself. In addition all of the army list templates are available for download from a separate community resource that other people create. It's unfortunately a bit more convoluted than ibodger, but it works just as well, and allows anyone to modify the list builder unlike ibodger.
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    I'll take the delay for a better list-builder. Preferably one that intelligently supports theme forces.

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    I only hooe it will be availabe through slideme as my pandigital wont let me DL from google or amazon.. On a side note to PG_aterdaeus, I use Ibodger to store lists I have made by hand that way I have a catalogue, allbeit small, of lists to pick from for pickup games.

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    I didn't really use iBodger so im not missing it.
    Making it right is all I need to hear for me to understand the push back date of release.
    Thank you for the update PP
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    Thanks for getting an updated time frame to us, PP. It is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockFist View Post
    Isnt War Room at its core just a army building app?
    No. (10 characters)

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    I do like that it's an actual real date. It feels like a commitment. I think thats why everyone got so weirdo crazy about the Mid May timeframe. Umm is it mid may? Maybe even today but July 8th is not July 9th and hopefully we will get something concrete if it gets to July 10th and no war room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop84 View Post
    The new look is nicer, but with so much more on screen it'll likely be a problem on smaller non-tablet screens.
    This is my main concern after seeing the new screen shots.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeardfreelance View Post
    I sincerely hope those pics are of a tablet. If not, there's no way I'll be able to read any of that on my phone. Much less select anything with these giant fingers.
    If those are from a tablet, could we get some shots of the phone interface?
    This, as well.....
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    The only real thing about this that bothers me is that they had to know well before today that War Room was going to be pushed back again and they waited until a general frenzy on the forums to say something. I wish they had mentioned it last week so people (me included) weren't getting so fired up about the release date approaching, then arriving, and looking online several times a day only to be disappointed. I thought for sure it would be released on time precisely because "Mid May" was passing and PPS hadn't said they would miss date.
    This is the biggest problem I have with all of this. Someone had to have known 2-3 weeks ago that it wouldn't be released on time, so why keep it a secret and build up the extra dissapointment? It's like waiting until the actual release date of a video game, waiting in line at the store, only for the owner to come out and say that it will actually be two months from now.

    I'm glad they're polishing it, but I felt this was inconsiderate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortal View Post
    This is the biggest problem I have with all of this. Someone had to have known 2-3 weeks ago that it wouldn't be released on time, so why keep it a secret and build up the extra dissapointment? It's like waiting until the actual release date of a video game, waiting in line at the store, only for the owner to come out and say that it will actually be two months from now.

    I'm glad they're polishing it, but I felt this was inconsiderate.
    I feel that it's quite the opposite. The release "date" was vague on purpose. People aren't supposed to get hyped up until they actually see a day. Video game releases have been that way since the Super Nintendo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aterdaeus View Post
    I feel that it's quite the opposite. The release "date" was vague on purpose. People aren't supposed to get hyped up until they actually see a day. Video game releases have been that way since the Super Nintendo.
    The release date was mid May. They told us effectively on that "date" (the middle day of the month was that Tuesday and they told us Friday).Of course poeple will get hyped up as the release window approaches and then arrives. It happened when the date was "April" and the last week of April came before PPS told us of the delay to mid May. It will happen again as we approach July 9th if there's no info before then on the status of the project, and if July 9th comes and another delay is announced people will be unhappy. That's just the way it is. The good thing is it means people care about the product and want it, which will translate to buying it :-)
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    I'll chime in on feeling disappointed by them not announcing the delay sooner. Hopefully if they're not going to make the new release date, they'll let us know further in advance.
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    People seem to be forgetting that this is out of PP's hands. They aren't developing this, Tinkerhouse Games is. And if you look at their website, it's no surprise they can't get this app finished
    http://tinkerhousegames.com/index.html

    That's right, they have 2 apps in their resume, and one is an airhorn app. Taking on such a large project is something I'd bet they just weren't prepared for. I know PP isn't afraid to give little guys a chance, but this was a poor decision that I'm sure they're regretting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Stabbity View Post
    That's right, they have 2 apps in their resume, and one is an airhorn app.
    Maybe it's a really nice air horn app. Did you ever think of that?



    Seriously, though, these guys do not look like they are in the right league for a project like this.
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    I must agree with some of you lads here, making software ain't easy, and problems appear when you least expect it, you that have tried to develop software or apps knows what i am talking about.
    I have also been disappointed every time i check the forums or app store to see if it has been release, but i rather wait a bit more and receiver a good product that we will pay money for.
    Image n that they just released it, with all the bugs and problem, would you be more happy? buying a product that doesn't work? i think not.
    all i am saying its sad to wait more after you expected it to be released, but no need to flame and talk trash, it does not help anyone, and won't help the process at all!

    lets just be patient and hope that the long wait will pay off.

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    I dont think any one is arguing that point. I think what is getting everyone is worked up is that they keep announcing release dates and then they consistently fail to meet the dates they set.

    This is why if I were them I wouldn't give any release dates. Just say it will be out when its done. (A lot of software companies stand by this.)


    Hell you could just say Summer of 2012 at this point, but with the dates of Waroom constantly being pushed around even that might make me nervous.

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    To whom it may concern, this might be interesting.

    Edit: Nothing earth-shattering, but as I suspected (being a programmer/developer myself) they needed to rework some things to make the end product work as well as they and the users would want, which means more time is needed.
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    and now, iBodger if gone (on iTunes)...complete BS

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    Im not too worried about the release date as I am about being able to purchase it as a late birthday present to myself if it isnt availabe through the app store my tablet uses as it doesnt allow you to purchase apps through google play. Please oh please say it goes to the slideme marketplace for my poor pandigital.

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    4 days to the Warrroom release date. Anticipation is high, but...

    ...will it be released...

    ...this time...

    ...for real...?

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    Folha Seca said...

    "4 days to the Warrroom release date. Anticipation is high, but...

    ...will it be released...

    ...this time...

    ...for real...?"



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    Haaahahaha, I love that "nooooooooooooo.com" is actually a website.
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    I've largely been away from the forums for a few months (work has been busy), but was it ever confirmed that they're going to be supporting theme force validation? I know that the new screen shot shows a "theme force" button, but until I see confirmation, I'm not going to assume that the button actually means that validation is supported (it could just take you to a list of theme forces that tells you what the bonuses etc are). That's the one thing I really want in War Room that wasn't there when they were talking about it a few months ago... I use a lot of theme forces, so if they delayed the launch partly to build theme force validation into War Room, then I'll be a happy camper.
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