35 point SR tomorrow what ya think?

[wargolem]

LIST ONE!


Khador
Standard Army
PCs: 35 / 35
Reinforcements: 7 / 7
27 models

[00] Zevanna Agha, the Old Witch of Khador (0 / 3 WJ remaining)
[00] >> Scrapjack (Companion)
[10] >> Spriggan
[05] Man-O-War Drakhun (Can Dismount)
[04] Greylord Ternion
[05] (R) Iron Fang Pikemen (5 grunts)
[02] (R) >> Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard
[08] Kayazy Assassins (9 grunts)
[02] >> Kayazy Assassin Underboss
[09] Gun Carriage


Greylords for magic shotguns + the clouds to keep scrappy and Zevanna stealthed against 1st turn retribution shenannigans. Drakhun for punching power + dismount because dragoons are nuts. Spriggan for stealth removal and bulldoze incase I need scenario objectives bulldozed. Kayazy as tarpit. Gun Carriage because it is awesome with weld secrets (pathfinder AND camo) which can make it a def 14 with a cloud (since clouds stay centered on the model).

I could swap the spriggan for a behemoth and drop Drakun to add either sylys, kell, or a min unit of mechaniks to keep the carriage repaired. The IFP as reserves is meh... I could swap it out for min unit of nyss but I do not have them painted and I would rather field paitned models.



LIST 2?


Khador
Mad Dogs of War (Kommander Orsus Zoktavir)
(Tier 4)
PCs: 35 / 35
Reinforcements: 7 / 7
28 models

[00] Kommander Orsus Zoktavir (0 / 6 WJ remaining)
[01] >> War Dog
[08] >> Kodiak
[08] >> Kodiak
[05] Fenris
[03] (R) Yuri the Axe
[02] (R) Manhunter
[02] (R) Manhunter
[05] Doom Reavers
[02] >> Greylord Escort
[05] Doom Reavers
[02] >> Greylord Escort
[05] Doom Reavers


Could swap the kodiaks for Jugs (and add in the 3rd escort) or spriggans (1 or 2 and take out the greylords totally) but really don't know.... I really like the tough rolls since 1 doomreaver can take out almost a whole unit if they are badly positioned and the sprays have came in handy as well when my opponents forget about them and focus on Butcher's threat range and not the GL. Meh any suggestions would be highly welcome.

[jdeckert]

I like the Old Witch list. One thing, though, is that Weald Secrets on the Gun Carriage is not the way to go. All battle engines already have pathfinder (Wrath, p. 17), and since they do not get the defense bonus from concealment (again Wrath, p. 17) I don't think it will be able to use camouflage, either.

As for the Butcher list, do you have more than 3 units of Doom Reavers? If so, I'd drop one of the kodiaks. I think the second kodiak will be sort of dead weight - you've got things that hit harder, go faster, and you're set on pathfinder. Another unit of doom reavers would be good. Drop one of the escorts and you can add TWO more units of doom reavers.

If you don't have any more doom reavers, I would drop one kodiak and one UA to add a spriggan. It's got crazy good synergy with eButcher's feat and gives you a couple AOEs, weak as they are.