Thornwood Scyir

[AJ the Ronin]

New league model is a Scyir with its only difference is the drive off-road (the jacks get pathfinder and must charge or slam).

And the gorgon may get aoe 4, demons gunfighter and sphinx steady.


Guys, is lague stuff but I love all that and wouldn't mind as regular rules

[Fragelrock]

I was more interested to see that Ret can take the wardog in this league.

[Lord Sessadore]

Do the jacks get a free charge or slam, or do they need to use the marshal bonus or a focus to do the charge or slam? Free charge is pretty sweet from a drive - with the marshal bonus and a focus from an arcanist that's effectively 3 focus.

Those are all pretty sweet additional rules, too. Moderately more useful gun on the Gorgon, nearly impossible to stop the Daemon from using its gun, and no knockdown is great on pretty much anything.

[Demeritus]

The Gorgon is the big wow on that one, the others aren't too shabby either. The Scyir isn't too bad either, using the wardog would be interesting for casters like Garryth and Vyros though that's for sure though I think both would still rather have Sylys.

[AJ the Ronin]

Reads like a free charge or slam.

[Demeritus]

Every time I see the Gorgon go through a league I cannot help but wish that this was how it was normally. Euralye as well as this ability are painful to give up during the non league play. Not to mention, I wish the Chrono-Hydra had been the standard Hydra but hopefully we will see some characters or some support in the future to make these a bit more useful.

[AJ the Ronin]

I still have this crazy idea that all league models will get tweeked and will be legal eventually, like the IF.

[PG_cheddercaveman]

I always get the feeling that they're just trying an ability here or there to see how viable it will be on something else more than making them legal eventually. Even more so with this league since they're trying new abilities on warjacks / warbeasts.

[theflyingdutchman59]

question, can khador player take ret jacks if he is using the scyir??

[Lord Sessadore]

question, can khador player take ret jacks if he is using the scyir??

I suppose they would have to, if they wanted the Scyir to marshal anything. Isn't that how the marshaling rules work - the marshal can only take jacks of his own faction? IE - Thor can marshal Rhulic jacks in whatever list he's in, and only Rhulic jacks.

[theflyingdutchman59]

so, i guess in thoery khador can have ret and rulic( basher) jacks........ well that will be funny to see.

[Fathoym]

I suppose they would have to, if they wanted the Scyir to marshal anything. Isn't that how the marshaling rules work - the marshal can only take jacks of his own faction? IE - Thor can marshal Rhulic jacks in whatever list he's in, and only Rhulic jacks.

I'm not sure, because I know Thor's card specifies that he can only have Rhulic Jacks. Which would mean without that rule he could take normal merc jacks in a merc list.

[Lord Sessadore]

I'm not sure, because I know Thor's card specifies that he can only have Rhulic Jacks. Which would mean without that rule he could take normal merc jacks in a merc list.

Ok then, replace "Thor" with "merc marshal" and "Rhulic jack" with "merc jack" then. My point was that a jack marshal can only marshal jacks from their own faction. You can't stick a merc jack marshal in a Khador list (I don't know if Khador actually has access to any merc jack marshals, but that's beside the point) and have it marshal a Juggernaut, and you can't have the Scyir marshal a Nomad.

[theflyingdutchman59]

Ok then, replace "Thor" with "merc marshal" and "Rhulic jack" with "merc jack" then. My point was that a jack marshal can only marshal jacks from their own faction. You can't stick a merc jack marshal in a Khador list (I don't know if Khador actually has access to any merc jack marshals, but that's beside the point) and have it marshal a Juggernaut, and you can't have the Scyir marshal a Nomad.

well as a merc player, khador has access to both dirty meg, and Ruger shaw, and they can only marshal non-rhulic merc jacks. they can not take over khador jacks( but they can repair them). so yes you are right. the Scyir can only take ret jacks with it.