Iron Curtain - help needed

[Tavitin]

Is there a way, using Mercenaries, to run an Iron Curtain list effectively?

Iron Curtain = Multiple Heavy Jacks (at least 5, marshalled or not).

Show me...

[mosez]

a while ago i had fun playing the following list:

gorten
* driller
* driller
sam & devil dogs (max)
* buccaneer
* freebooter
gunmages
* officer
* mule
thor
* basher
lanyssa
rockbottom

it has 5 heavies, but somehow wouldnt really consider that list an "iron curtain"...
booter is there for trading: bucc knocks something over, booter charges/moves in (both pronoed, so can be done top 2nd turn), chainattack to throw it towards my army, lanyssa points at it for a driller to finish it off... got this working several times, the threat range on this is quite big.

thor and his basher just do their thing. usually engaging units, and flakfielding them, sometimes traded for slamming a heavy back for two (one) turns. or just holding a flank...

gunmages provide ranged support, mule gives a bit of crowd control. even more fun, if the crit goes off, but wouldnt rely on that.

lanyssa is there to keep the focus strain on gorten lower, or increase threat ranges on the heavies.

rockbottom is almost needed for his coins, as with 3 prontos a turn, one is almost sure to fail. and he has a nice flamethrower to keep the backfield clean, if a unit engages your units.

gorten's feat is in this list just the icing on the cake, the list itself was basically a selfrunner, i used the feat sometimes for assassination, sometimes for taking out another alpha-heavy of the opponent. when the booter got a heavy, the feat gets another heavy, most lists are already whithered down that two drillers can just walk in almost unperturbed... and once a driller gets close to a caster, he/she is most often dead

[MagnustheJust]

Damiano
Rocinante
Rover
Rover
Rover
Rover

[mightyspacepope]

This looks pretty fun.

Magnus the Traitor (*6pts)
* Renegade (5pts)
* Mangler (8pts)
* Mule (8pts)
* Mule (8pts)
* Nomad (6pts)
* Nomad (6pts)

[MagnustheJust]

This looks pretty fun.

Magnus the Traitor (*6pts)
* Renegade (5pts)
* Mangler (8pts)
* Mule (8pts)
* Mule (8pts)
* Nomad (6pts)
* Nomad (6pts)

I have played and won with nearly this exact list!!

The only difference was 2 Renegades and 1 Nomad on mine...

[Tavitin]

I would like some kind of infantry as well, if its an Iron Curtain it has to be something beyond it right?
Also, 50pointers mostly.
My try:

Durgen
^Driller
^Driller

Arcane Tempest Gun Mages
^Mule
^Mule

Thor
^Basher
^Basher

Dougal Macnaile
Reinholdt

6 heavies
(A warbeast like BRINE, SNAPJAW or LUG dont count)

[Breadsmith]

Bart
5 Nomads or Rovers

[MagnustheJust]

(A warbeast like BRINE, SNAPJAW or LUG dont count)

I'll betcha you wouldn't tell THEM that!!!

[Tavitin]

I'll betcha you wouldn't tell THEM that!!!

Its an IRON Curtain, not a FUR Curtain.

Green Peace would be mad at people if they made curtains out of warbeasts...
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Not that i'm trying to be a *ick but all those lists, including mine, look sooo bad on the paper. (save for Mosez's list, i'm still analysing it).
Most of the lists posted here can't even deal with serious lists from other factions (Hordes and WM alike).

[theflyingdutchman59]

Shea(+6)
Nomad -6
Nomad -6
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
Dirty meg-1
Hawk-1
( i think idid that right)

[MagnustheJust]

Its an IRON Curtain, not a FUR Curtain.

Green Peace would be mad at people if they made curtains out of warbeasts...
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Not that i'm trying to be a *ick but all those lists, including mine, look sooo bad on the paper. (save for Mosez's list, i'm still analysing it).
Most of the lists posted here can't even deal with serious lists from other factions (Hordes and WM alike).

Snackjaw ams not furry!!


Some of the best lists look like total crappola on paper. And some lists require a certain mentality to play them. I am quite skilled at thinking outside the box, and using misdirection to confuse my opponent, so oddball lists work for me...

[LiamPiver]

Running a lot of Bashers with either Dwarf caster is a solid way to do this as well. They are very focus efficent and rock with either Strength of Granite or Redline for increased damage. Durgen also helps keep them safe with IH and can kill the crap out of infantry while Gorten gives some protection with a Rock Wall and makes them highly accrate with his feat.

Either way, if you can get Thor in both lists, he's so worth it.

[Tavitin]

Maybe the new Pirate+Rhull Shae Theme can help us?

Variant #1
Phinneous Shae
^Nomad
^Nomad
^Talon

Ayanna and Holt
Highshield Gun Corps + UA
^Rockram
^Rockram

Thor
^Basher
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Variant #2
Phinneous Shae
^Nomad

Ayanna and Holt
Highshield Gun Corps + UA
^Rockram
^Rockram

Thor
^Basher
^Basher
^Ogrun Bokur

Coup The Main on two marshalled Rockrams looks good.
At least one Basher for Veil of Mists ghostly surprises.
Ayanna and Holt + Guns Blazing + Double Time
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@theflyingdutchman59
Fail.
At least 5 HEAVY jacks.

[MagnustheJust]

Running a lot of Bashers with either Dwarf caster is a solid way to do this as well. They are very focus efficent and rock with either Strength of Granite or Redline for increased damage. Durgen also helps keep them safe with IH and can kill the crap out of infantry while Gorten gives some protection with a Rock Wall and makes them highly accrate with his feat.

Either way, if you can get Thor in both lists, he's so worth it.

I still want to run Gorty with a 6-pack of Bashers...

[canadianone]

my only question (apart from why) is who on earth (except possible magnus) has 9 buccaneers lying around?


also, if you have THAT much KD in a list, for the love of GOD why are you not using freebooters?

[MagnustheJust]

Surprisingly, I own ZERO Buccaneers...

[perilsensitive]

I actually ran this list at a tournament:

Durgen T4 @ 50
-Avalancher - 8
-Avalancher - 8
-Rockram - 8

Forge Guard 10x - 8
Forge Guard 6x - 5
Herne & Jonne - 3

Thor - 2
-Basher - 7
-Basher - 7

It was (literally) a blast to play. Love Durgen.

[JohnOSpencer]

MacBain can run jacks pretty well. Engergizer makes up for charging (if you need to get multiple into combat) or you can just fire them off as missiles. Overall, I'm not sure you can beat Magnus the Traitor, though. Free upkeeps on his Battlegroup and Iron Aggression is pretty awesome.

[Skorpius47]

Bart

YES

BARTOLO
Rocinante
Mule
Rover
Rover
Rover
Sylys
35pts
Done.
BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES
BROADSIDES
Come at me bro

[Shiasai]

Shea(+6)
Nomad -6
Nomad -6
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
buccaneer-3
Dirty meg-1
Hawk-1
( i think idid that right)

That is a lot of knock down

[Breadsmith]

With that many Bucs, you're better with Freebooters than Nomads.

[Tavitin]

So, here's another try at it

Magnus Agenda

Magnus, Warlord
^Renegade
^Renegade
^Mangler
^Mangler
^Mangler
^Rover
^Rover
Kell Bailoch
Orin Midwinter
Wulfe

49/50

[Choco]

Hmmm... What about a Bad Seeds list?

Bad Seeds Tier 3 50pts.

Magnus the Warlord
-Defender
-2x Mangler
-Mule
-Nomad
-Renegade

Kell (free)
Orin
2x Trencher Master Gunner
Rangers

[Lanz]

I proxied this a few times, but never actually bought the second gun mage unit. It was always a riot, but models that can't be thrown or knocked-down are a raw deal to face. Colossals are even worse.

I call it "The Guns of Llael"

Ashlynn d'Elyse (*6pts)
* Vanguard (5pts)
* Vanguard (5pts)
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
* Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer (0pts)
* * Mule (8pts)
* * Mule (8pts)
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
* Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer (2pts)
* * Mule (8pts)
Anastasia di Bray (2pts)
Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist (2pts)
Harlan Versh (2pts)
Taryn di la Rovissi (2pts)

[The Buoyancy of Water]

Bart
-Nomad
-Nomad
-Nomad
-Galleon
Aiyana and Holt

Only four jacks, but still fairly good I think

[CareyBear]

Shae, 5 Nomads, Meg, Buccaneer, Commodore, Rockbottom, Hawk, Grogspar @ 35 points.

[WarlockFiretopMountain]

I could happily run this little 35pt list:

Gorten
Rockram
Driller
Driller
Driller

Thor
Basher
Basher

[MagnustheJust]

Then there is the ultimate in silliness at 50 points...

Searforge Commission

Assault Warren!!
Gorten Grundback
~19 assorted Gun Bunnies


Good luck being able to get to Gorten through that!!

[The Buoyancy of Water]

I really want to try Gorten with 14 bunnies at 35pts! Any experience running an all-out bunny warren..?

[MagnustheJust]

I have not actually done it... I only have 8 Bunnies at the moment {4 each}.

Part of me really wants to run that list.

Part of me wants to know why in the fudge burgers I need 14/19 Bunnies...

The rest of me is sitting back with popcorn and an Icee, enjoying the show!!

[The Buoyancy of Water]

I'm thinking a test on vassal is in order

[nicholas_342]

I have 7 bunnies, and I've run them and a driller all on Gorten before which was fun. Of course, I was playing against Sloan which made it even more fun. Nothing like out shooting a sniper caster.

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Rancor's iron curtain list.

Gorten
Driller
Driller
Bokur

Thor
Basher
Basher
Bokur
Rockbottom

I can't remember what the last 6 points where. But basically the warjacks and the bokurs form a ring around Gorten and run/slam down the field. You can't draw los to Gorten and nothing can get into the circle nor hit Gorten with. He's had luck with it but I haven't tried it out yet.

[WarlockFiretopMountain]

The Summer Rampage 2012 rules encourage jack-heavy lists with their 'Fight Club' restrictions. Looking forward to it!

[FluffyZealot]

I've used the following to good effect.. (If you can get around all of the hundreds of little rules )

Fiona 4*
- Nomad
- Mariner
Wrong Eye + Snapjaw
Rorsh + Brine
Thor + Basher

(35 pts)

The bonus is that everything is very resource high, so you're not balancing 6 focus between 5 jacks, only 2.
It caught quite a few opponents off guard as basically every hit is boosted.

Might try it with someone other than fiona later as there's very little synergy there with her.