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    Default General Tactics vs pDenny

    I've played against her once in a tourney and won by clocking my opponent. Bane Thralls were wrecking me though. Absorbing the pain does not seem the way to go.

    I theorymachine that you need Kayazy or some way to put pressure on her and bonejack arc nodes.

    Other than Doomies and Lady Z's Banishing Ward? What else do you guys do? Arcing fire?
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    You basically have to break the back of any models who can really threaten your caster. So the Bonejacks are generally first, you want to make sure Denny needs to engage in order to really try an assassinate you.

    You dont need Kayazy as such, but they do do well against Bane thralls.

    I cant help but say Epic Irusk would be a great man for you. FFE'd AOE's hurt bane thralls, like anyone else. Not sure if they have many ways of getting Pathfinder, but if not then a Gun carriage would be amazing with FFE on it, also Tactical supremacy in order to get it even further away after moving.
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    I usually buck down arc nodes with Widowmakers. Pick a track, roll for damage, pew pew!

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    Winterguard Rifle Corps can do quite a number on her Bonejacks. Suppressing Fire is also an excellent counter to Bane Thralls, and pretty much any other infantry she can bring along. Eiryss can shoot your own models to dispel upkeeps if Crippling Grasp is really that big of a problem for you.

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    Kill the nodes. Having eiryss to strip parasite/crippling grasp (not sure if those are the names) also helps a lot. Once you get to denny she tends to die so just weather the storm.

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    Komrades,

    Any more suggestions to keep faction purity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QTN View Post
    Komrades,

    Any more suggestions to keep faction purity?
    Screw faction purity... what sort of society do we live in where we don't use Mercs? Mercs are the life blood of the iron kingdoms. You pay them, they spend and keep the economy moving along. The depression started because of this thinking... Khador has been using Mercs since the beginning of time why would we stop now?

    nah, just kidding. However, there have only been 2 people who mentioned Eyriss and that is because she is awesome at shutting down nodes.

    You can also do it with any shooting and pray for the right track, or as said previously widowmakers. Old Witch is awesome against her, So is anything High Def. Try them out and you should be fine

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    Tartarus can only Curse one thing at a time. Mix high DEF solos or really any mixture of things with a fraction of your unit and the power of the Curse gets watered down. Kayazy Eliminators could be good for this. Jam him early with the Eliminators. They'll need 11's to hit unless Tartarus Curses them, and even then they may survive. Be ready to counter charge. An exploding AK Flamethrower can be nice here. Threatening Tartarus with Acrobatics is one way to tempt pDenny into Feating early.
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    Great Bears and Black Dragon IFP and Widowmakers are all good at applying damage to Arc Nodes (you do it just in case you leave the chicken on low health and it runs. They do have good defence.) All in faction. Widowmakers need some help because it can take awhile to get the arc node alone with their shots. You need to aim to get their defence on average.

    Black Dragons are amazing at ruining a Bonechicken and choosing what to hit first. Like first you hit the arc node, then you hit the movement, and then its Def 7 for all other attacks.

    Generally you dont want your great bears hitting Bone Chickens since you dont want them exposed as much as that might leave them, (although Def 17 in a Wreck marker).

    Also hitting a Bone Chicken with a Behemoths fist is Hilarity Incarnate. Dice+4.
    Looking forward to Epic Vlad on his Battle Cattle.

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    I think the best 'casters to use against pDeneghra are Old Witch, Zerkova and, actually, pSorscha. I favor sprays (Greylords in my case) to deal with Bane Thralls.

    I like pSorscha + shooting 'jack + more shooting + Eiryss + more shooting for a feat turn that destroys all the arc nodes and ideally does damage to other key elements. Decimator for me, but Behemoth or Destroyer or Black Ivan or whatever is fine too. If she has to come forward to cast you're doing great. If you can cripple the nodes before Crippling Grasp goes down then you're in awesome shape. Can't freeze the Bane Thralls effectively while the UA is still alive but eh. They're slow and they die to sprays.

    For Zerkova, a Spriggan or whatever is nice, or maybe even two 'jacks, and then... Shooting. Like Widowmakers. Spriggan is nice because Zerkova can keep Grasp off of it and then you can remove Bane Thrall stealth and shoot them, or even try to assassinate by removing Deneghra's stealth. This is an uphill battle because pDeneghra's a beast, but it can be done. One thing to be afraid of in this matchup is Venom assassination attempts on her feat turn.

    For OW... Just feat and win or something. I have very little experience with her, grand total of one Vassal game against Skorne, but her feat is insane.

    Oh and high DEF is really nice against pDeneghra. High ARM won't get you anywhere, though. Parasite, Grasp, feat, Bane Thralls... Yeah those ARM20 'jacks are now ARM20 wreck markers.

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    I'd say bring boostable guns. Full Riflecorps with Joe. That way, she can't really take them out of the game by feating, they do very nasty things to bonejacks, too - and to any other infantry if you pile in enough shots.

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    Rifle Corps are definitely a great idea. Their shooting is awesome against bonejacks and is fine against Banes (provided you remove stealth in the case of Thralls) and shooting in general is good against pDeneghra because while you lose RAT under her feat you don't lose POW on your guns. WGRC therefore can still operate fine. They also provide a storm of POW10s on, say, a pSorscha feat turn. I'm using Nyss at the moment but I wish I had WGRC because damn if I don't want boosted to-hit POW10s.

    Edit: On a side note, as is probably apparent, you shouldn't really take a melee 'jack unless you're using Zerkova or have something even more threatening for Grasp, but I'd rather have no insane Grasp targets in my list.

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