What is the top assassination list in cryx?

[2LiveIs2Die]

If your only goal was to kill a caster, and as fast as possible (say for hardcore), what list do you play and why?

I was thinking scaverous with Croes and nothing but support to deliver a quick arc node to my opponents caster and wipe them off the board, or Deneghra1 theme tier 4... +1 starting roll, advance move on 2 levithans, 2 focus on each > feat > scourge > and take a minimum of 6 pow 15 shots, then you have other arc nodes, pistol wraiths, and so on.

[elplagUe]

Scaverous with Croe's is a solid option. Dojo:

Scaverous
Deathripper x2
Nightwretch
Reaper
Skarlock
Max Croe's
Min Biles
Max Black Ogrun
Max Blood Witches + UA
2x Siren

It's got drag and 3 nodes to ensure delivery + Backstrike for the Croe's.

I'd personally, however, say that pGaspy has gotten my fastest caster kills.

[Adurot]

My fastest caster kill was eBastard running a pair of Leviathans. Opponent moved up too far, spent all his Focus getting his upkeeps out and running his Jacks, then the Levi's just ignored the line of Jacks he was hiding behind and filled him full of holes top of two.

[2LiveIs2Die]

Thats like 0% support.

My fastest caster kill was eBastard running a pair of Leviathans. Opponent moved up too far, spent all his Focus getting his upkeeps out and running his Jacks, then the Levi's just ignored the line of Jacks he was hiding behind and filled him full of holes top of two.

no.

[Harvester]

I'd go with morty tier 4 for round 1 kill :-)

[Lamoron]

Mortenebra Scavenger assassination takes around three minutes of your second turn if your opponent doesn't know about it, two minutes if you've done it a couple of times: "you have room for a medium base by your caster and you didn't camp 3+ Focus/Fury, see you!" (disclaimer: non-living casters and Karchev are not guaranteed to go down).

[Harvester]

Morty DJ to face in my first turn has netted me 3 games of 4 to a tournament last year:-)

[Admiral_Arzar]

pDenny gun-lines, Mortenebra, eSkarre with Perdition, and Scaverous with Croe's can all pull off fast assassinations. However, all of these are relatively easily countered if your opponent sees them coming.

[Drzombieface]

Fastest caster kill I got with Cryx was with eAsphyxious vs. Testament. He ran all his models foward the first turn, I knew he would be in range the next turn to be able to prevent me from getting models to bring back, so I killed off a few of my own models on my first turn, got in range 2nd turn, feated, killed Testament.

My general "I want to kill that caster as soon as humanly possible" list that I run is my general eGaspy list which is 50 points:

eAsphyxious
-Deathjack
-Cankerworm
-Ripjaw
-Skarlock

Bane Knights (Max)
Bane Thralls (Max
-UA
Mechanithralls (Max)
Necrosurgeon

Tartarus

Usually wins around turn 3. Last time I played it against my friend to test it, I had annihilated his army (Menoth)_and was in a good position to kill his caster, and it was bottom of turn 3, but he surrendered.

This is my list that I generally use when I'm in an unforgiving mood.

[SpiderBite]

My fastest kill. going second, first turn.
Mortenebra tier. Fully loaded Deathjack with overrun.
Morty advance, feat, TV. (Pretty sure Dery put Overrun on him.)
5 Focus DJ smashed into his AD units (troll scouts iirc), Overrun'd to his caster (gunbjorn) and said Hello.


Honestly, your opponent has to REALLY mess up to let you get a kill off that fast though.

[Harvester]

Honestly, your opponent has to REALLY mess up to let you get a kill off that fast though.

But so damn fun when they do it or simply don't know it can happen

[Saladin]

5 minutes in, 50 point game. Top of turn two I assassinate Kara Sloan with Scaverous via a boosted feast of worms.

[ZombieWar]

i got to Ecaine at the top of turn 2 with satyxis raiders.

[Pigu]

Got kalyssa on turn one. They ran up first turn and left their Character cav solo in melee with her camping no focus. Ran up an arcnode and influenced him to kill her with Pdenny. A fluke, but hilarious.

[2LiveIs2Die]

I'm not asking what you guys did because you played against bad players.

[EnslavedYeti]

I've been away from the game for a while so quick question: Is Scaverous equal or better than Witch Coven when it comes to dishing out a burst of spell damage?

Right now my "Quick Death" lists usually have a core of Witch Coven + Nightmare. I prey a frontline unit and use it's bonus and infernal machine + Curse of Shadows and Veil Of Mists to catapult Nightmare behind their lines to tear apart their caster. I know both Witch Coven and Nightmare get some hate but together they have won me quite a few game because of my many far reaching attack vectors.

[Kuwanger23]

Oh 2Live I know what you mean. I think they do too. But any excuse to tell fun stories for these guys, seriously.

[Lamoron]

Scavenger assassination works on good players as well

[2LiveIs2Die]

Im torn between a deneghra1 theme for advance move heavies, scaverous with croes, or mortenebra theme.

Scaverous can do a nightmare slingshot farther than the coven, he just doesn't ignore models. That doesn't seem to be a big deal since he has enough guns to kill a caster at a much easier than trying toget a model next to a caster.

[Harvester]

I'm not asking what you guys did because you played against bad players.

Why would it be bad players.?

[PG_Dmark]

Either Skarre, two Raider units and a Skarlock. Just sayin'. Only works on WM players with at least two 'jacks, though :P

[2LiveIs2Die]

Why would it be bad players.?

someone allowing you to kill a caster with teleport on turn 2 with a model that is charging is doing it wrong

[Harvester]

Then what is a good kill from you since you consider yourself a good player

[2LiveIs2Die]

Then what is a good kill from you since you consider yourself a good player

Something that doesnt rely on your opponent ****ing up.
Long threat range and high damage output over several attacks (to eat through transfers).

Like taking 9x RAT 9 POW 12 4d6 damage rolls with croes and scav

[Harvester]

I see what you mean, but I don't agree on the point that just because you can teleport yet gets charged to death makes a bad player

[anewbre]

During a steamroller vs. a great Retribution player. Bottom of turn 1, he ran forward but with plenty of protection and no focus camped. WWS threw a focus on a nightwretch. It ran forward and into Stygian Abyss range. Heleana critted with the first attack and I boosted damage on the rest of the attacks for the kill.

[2LiveIs2Die]

I'm either going scaverous or mortenebra.
Either one can do a legit jack bullet and scaverous can make croe's kill casters.

[gregoire]

The most reliable assassination lists are IMHO :

Deneghra 1.
3 arc nodes
1 heavy of your choice (Slayer chassis though)
Skarlock
Full McThralls with brutes
Full Satyxis +UA (for the joke on a jack who came too close.
Satyxis Captain.

Add whatever you want depending on points left.


Or maybe

Skarre 1.
1 arc node
1 Crabjack.
Skarlock
Scrap thralls (so that the skarlock can make more focus for Skarre)
Mini Bane thralls +UA (for skarre bombing)

An whatever you want with it.

[Iixil]

no ones gonna say the coven?!?! no caster can beat the reach and vectors of the witch coven! just add stalkers bloodwitches a nightmare and 2 sirens the rest is gravy.

[Harvester]

In mkI I would agree on coven

[anewbre]

I did say Coven, unfortunately, too many scenarios require the warnoun to be in a zone or near an interactive objective and the sisters are notoriously easy to kill.

[blakeh1]

There is not really many Cryx casters that can play the attrition game. Both Skarre's maybe. Epic Goreshade bane thrall spam, Terminus and 30 mechanithralls maybe. OTher can excel for scenarios like Epic Deneghra, but most of our stuff relies on finding a way to get a caster kill.

The Coven and Mortenebra and Epic Skarre do so by delivering helljacks through movement shennanigans, although the Coven can use the Stygian Abyss approach against a low ARM caster. Terminus does so by Delivering himself. Deneghra debuffs and knocks down so her army can do it. Apshyxious can do it through melee or spells. Venethrax is like a cross between Asphyxious and Terminus depending on wheterh your playing against Hordes or Warmachine.

I think the earliest assassinations go to Mortenbra, the Coven, Epic Skarre and Deneghra and possibly Apshyxious when doing the feat turn arc hellfire/Breath of corruption thing.

[Baenre]

Isn't every Cryx list an assassination list?

[Drzombieface]

Something that doesnt rely on your opponent ****ing up.
Long threat range and high damage output over several attacks (to eat through transfers).

Like taking 9x RAT 9 POW 12 4d6 damage rolls with croes and scav

Cryx exploits weaknesses. We get our kills from opponents making a mistake, that they might not have even seen themselves.

Isn't every Cryx list an assassination list?

/thread

[Drzombieface]

There is not really many Cryx casters that can play the attrition game. Both Skarre's maybe. Epic Goreshade bane thrall spam

eGoreshade is our "attrition" caster, though in a faction that doesn't like to play attrition, he tends not to fall in that niche, and it keeps him from being classified with other attrition casters like Irusk, or the entirety of Menoth.

[2LiveIs2Die]

The most reliable assassination lists are IMHO :

Deneghra 1.
3 arc nodes
1 heavy of your choice (Slayer chassis though)
Skarlock
Full McThralls with brutes
Full Satyxis +UA (for the joke on a jack who came too close.
Satyxis Captain.

Add whatever you want depending on points left.


Or maybe

Skarre 1.
1 arc node
1 Crabjack.
Skarlock
Scrap thralls (so that the skarlock can make more focus for Skarre)
Mini Bane thralls +UA (for skarre bombing)

An whatever you want with it.

While neither of those are bad I was looking for something that can do it early, not have to grind it out. :C

[I8Cthulhu]

I might consider a non-tier Mortenebra force with Nightmare. There is some serious threat range there with some flexibility in a focus-efficient alternative to Spectral Steel.

[Bittersashes]

Something that doesnt rely on your opponent ****ing up.
Long threat range and high damage output over several attacks (to eat through transfers).

Like taking 9x RAT 9 POW 12 4d6 damage rolls with croes and scav

But that means they haven't blocked LOS and don't have stealth and aren't sitting back out of range.

Obviously, anyone who loses to that is some kind of scrub and the worst player in the world and has at least one kind of serious illness that should mark them out as a pariah. You want some kind of combo that kills their caster before it leaves their case. Preferably before the tournament starts and pairings are released.

[2LiveIs2Die]

But that means they haven't blocked LOS and don't have stealth and aren't sitting back out of range.

Obviously, anyone who loses to that is some kind of scrub and the worst player in the world and has at least one kind of serious illness that should mark them out as a pariah. You want some kind of combo that kills their caster before it leaves their case. Preferably before the tournament starts and pairings are released.

oh you <3

[PG_69Lazarus]

Something that doesnt rely on your opponent ****ing up.

Well.....if the player is considered "good" then he would have to F up by getting assassinated on turn 1 or 2.


I nearly always play my Cryx lists as attrition style games where I usually only go for an assassination when the other guy F's up. Even with Caster like Denny, it is grind the army down and take the run if I have an opening...if not, grind, rinse and repeat.