Menoth help

[Barata]

Heya all, im a new player of warmachine, i need a break from WH40k and i need a new game so i went for warmachine. I bought a 2 player box with a friend and choose menoth, so i have kreoss, vanq, cruzador, repenter and cinerators.
In my local game store we play for newbies like me at 15pts and later on i can go up to 35pts. For my list i just need the choir that i have allready bought but its still on the way.
So my list with the choir is this

pKreoss
Vanq
Cruz
Repenter
Choir - min

I think its a good list to start with but im allready thinking on upgrading it and its here that i need some help and advices.
1. What to buy for my 35 pts list? I like feora and the Harbringer and i just love the Avatar
2. Is the Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios a good buy? I liked to include this on my list.

Thx for all your help

[mactac]

I think its a good list to start with but im allready thinking on upgrading it and its here that i need some help and advices.
1. What to buy for my 35 pts list? I like feora and the Harbringer and i just love the Avatar
^ Both are fun casters.
Avatar is always good you can never go wrong with him.
2. Is the Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios a good buy? I liked to include this on my list.
Eiryss is pretty solid, we dont need her as much as other factions due to spell mitigation and other things.
Although for caster kills sniping away their focus can be dandy.
I recommend getting a brickish unit like zealots, TFG, or knights errant ORRRR daughters.

[Barata]

Thx for the advices, so i have read some forun and i came up with this idea, need some feedback on it.

35 Pts - Protectorate of Menoth Army

High Exemplar Kreoss
Reckoner
Vanquishe
Redeemer
Choir - min
Exemplars Errant - min + UA
Holy Zealots + UA
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios

[regleant]

Thx for the advices, so i have read some forun and i came up with this idea, need some feedback on it.

35 Pts - Protectorate of Menoth Army

High Exemplar Kreoss
Reckoner
Vanquishe
Redeemer
Choir - min
Exemplars Errant - min + UA
Holy Zealots + UA
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios

Not a bad list at all for the "pop-n-drop". I would take out the Zealots and add some combination of:
- Vassal
- Upgrade MIN choir to MAX
- Something else fun to fill out the points, Covenant / Wracks / Hierophant / Daughters...

That way you have a lot of shooting, some duplication of Choir, ample support, and heavy hitters. It's a well-rounded list that could win through attrition or assassination.

[Barata]

Ok, i think i got it now

35 Pts - Protectorate of Menoth Army

High Exemplar Kreoss
Hierophant
Reckoner
Vanquishe
Redeemer
Choir - min
Exemplars Errant - min + UA
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios
Vassal
Vassal

[regleant]

That should net you some success, even if it takes a while to get used to playing. Next up, you should understand the tactics. How will you play that list to victory?

[Marzuki]

In my opinion you either take full Errants or you go with something else.

[Craaag]

As Marzuki said. Go full Errants and U/A or drop them if you can't and go full Zealots with Monolith bearer. Drop Heirophant, replace with Wracks to get another point for full Zealots squad (8 as opposed to the 7 for min Errants +U/A). Pretty solid 35 points then. The Wracks still give you the extra Focus, you just lose the 2" spell casting bonus from Heirophant, or drop 1 Vassal to add Wracks.

[Barata]

Sorry did not say anything this weekend but i was in Rock in Rio, it was amazing hehe, about the list i thing you guys are right, a full errants is a must, i dont realy like the Wracks, my current list has 1pt over the 35pts.

High Exemplar Kreoss
Reckoner
Vanquishe
Redeemer
Choir - min
Exemplars Errant - max + UA
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios
Vassal
Vassal

Im trying to make a shooty list and i still have some Qs to ask
Can the list work with one vassal only?
Whats best? Zealots or Errants?
Is Eiryss a good choise or its just too much point sink?

Thx for all the help.

[regleant]

From my opinion:
- 1 vassal should work fine if you are trying to find points
- I prefer Errants over Zealots. If you can't get the assassination, they will be more effective with Quick Work. Also improved range.
- Eiryss is a personal choice. Given your list, she may not be as needed, but won't hurt.