pKaya 50 points. Give me your thoughts

[MikeC103]

ok gang, here is a 50 point list I dreamed up today. I haven't hit the table with it yet, so any advice, suggestions or other thoughts on it are appreciated.

pKaya
Pureblood
Stalker
Ghetorix
Winter Argus
Bloodtrackers-max
Nuala
Tharn Ravagers-min
Ravager Chieftan
Ravager White mane

[null_sheen]

interesting im going to assume occultation will be going on the ravagers?

Looks like its got some hitting power and can deal with high def and high arm...

[Phatheadaf]

@ OP...

I actually like the Ravagers a lot with her, and have been using that myself lately. They are my original target for Occulation. It keeps them alive in most cases so they can get to melee, where they are obviously most effective. Problem I have with them is that they are a glass cannon unit that can rip thru infantry but tends to disappoint in most cases. I like them against med based multi wound units and light beasts/jacks. I like the UA w/ them as the POW 15 on the charge is a big difference maker, IMHO.

She needs a Geomancer, preferably Megalith. His animus makes her harder to reach, and takes extreme advantage of Pack Hunters, the -2 DEF and +2 buff makes the Stalker nearly auto hit in most cases. I would swap out Ghetorix for him, in this list. Also, being able to get Spirit Fang onto heavy targets for board control, to me, is another reason you need to have a geomancer, all the while saving playa Fury.

The Winter Argus goes to waste as the ARM buff on her is negligible, she goes up to 15, not a big enough deal to warrant further consideration. I don't like the inclusion, your better off w/ a Gorax, that way you can dial a Stalker up to effective MAT of 12 when combined w/ Undergrowth animus from Mega and Pack Hunters from Kaya.

I am the biggest Pureblood fan you will find, so I like the inclusion. I personally don't but one in my pKaya lists, but that doesn't mean it can't work. The inclusion of her in this list only more strongly suggests that you need a Gorax. That make will dial her up to POW 20 in Melee. Also, the on demand magic wean via Wraith Bane animus is a big deal.

I really like her with a Wilder, which you don't have in your list. I think her over Nuala, especially with the amount of beasts your running. It saves you more Fury. Kaya needs to always have a minimum of 2 Fury for transfers, as she needs to be at the front in most cases, and the Wilder can put up Animus or remove excess Fury, which is, to me, extremely important for pKaya.

Lastly, I think she NEEDS druids more than almost any other Warlock. pKaya needs to be w/ 14" of the front line of your enemy, well within gun range, and spell range. Since the Ravagers need Occulation in the early game, the Druids cloud cover is really important, and the counter magic even more important. Occulation can move cycled onto her once the Ravagers hit home, but at that point ranged assassination is mitigated anyway, so it's before that when she needs the help. Plus the push pull is always a big deal, but more so, between Mega's animus, and the cloud cover (which also means enemies are -2 to attack rolls) means they need pathfinder to get to pKaya and her DEF is effective 18 in melee, and she'll have transfers to give, plus you won't be able to target her w/ spells or draw LOS thru the clouds. It's a must, to me, to have them in, as her personal escort.

Bloodtrackers are nice, but you may not need them, as pKaya can't do anything for them, they already have stealth, and they don't benefit from Pack Hunters, which is why I don't reach for them, as much as I do another beast. That's just me. Now you don't want to play your list exactly like I do, but that's my concerns for your list. I'd, at the minimum drop the Winter Argus, and add a Gorax. The last point can be used for Gobbers instead of Druids. I also think you need to get a Geomancer into the list, the Pureblood or Ghetorix is the way to go there, swap one for either the Woldwarden or Megalith.

After that, he rest is mostly personal opinion. Try it out and let me know how it goes...

A.

[MikeC103]

I could try to swap in Megalith for Gheto. Not sure about Gorax though. My thoughts behind useing the Winter Argus is for the crit freeze on key targets. I know its not a guarantee, but boosting gives it a decnt shot of working.

[Phatheadaf]

@MikeC103...

Why do you need the Crit Stationary when the Gorax Animus combined w Mega Animus and Pack Hunter gives you an effective +6 MAT? Anything that needs to get hit is getting hit at that point.

But give it a whirl... You might like it your way better.

A.