35 pt Testament list

[nicholas_342]

I've got a tournament coming up and I felt like doing something different. It's 3 lists with character restrictions and reinforcements. My other two casters are going to be eFeora(light everybody on fire) and eKreoss just because I enjoy the KE spam. But I'm curious if anybody has any thoughts on this Testament list.

-6 Testament of Menoth
+8 Reckoner
+2 Hierophant

+11 Avatar
+2 Choir(min)
+5 Daughters of the flame
+5 Knights Exemplar
+8 Bastions(full)

My thoughts are basically just jam a bunch of infantry down my opponents throat. Ashen Veil on the daughters to make them obnoxious, Hallowed Avenger on the Reckoner for the extra unexpected charge, and Testament behind the bastions pretty quickly. The Hierophant is there to make his Revive spell cost one less the first time it's cast. And when the enemy warcaster is close enough, Testament brings back as many Bastions as possible, after dropping the upkeeps it's concievable to bring back three bastions. Bastions charge through the opposing line and blessed weapons take care of any def buffs the warcaster might have on him. Blessed weapons is basically the only reason I am taking the bastions over the cinerators. The other plus is that I can park a couple of bastions right at the extent of their reach range and still have room for a few daughters to get in between. As for reinforcements I was thinking about either a min unit of vengers or another unit of KE and a KEE Seni.

So what do you think? Does this list have potential to be viable?

[angel_aZrael]

Hey dude,

a small foreword before my comments. I'm a fairly new player with no experience VS Hordes factions so take my opinion with a pinch of salt.

All in all I like the list. The Testament suffers with his low FOC so having a good amount of friendly warriors to draw souls from is great. As long as you have threatened models within his 10'' Control area as much as possible it should be sweet. Having just the Reckoner and then the Avatar being self sufficient should give the Testament all he needs to get off his spells when he needs to. With Feat and Acrobatics you have great potential on getting a nice assasination through enemy lines.

My main worry is simply how you would dislodge heavy armoured jacks on a zone but I guess you can field this list against more preferred armies. I'm also not really a huge fan of the Hierophant as I rarely find myself needing him until the kill run. Although FOC is a problem I think you've done well to cover it in other ways and I'd be tempted to add Rhupert or UA to the errants instead. Adding Tough or Pathfinder & Quick Work into the mix would cause more of a headache for your opponent I feel. While the thought of dropping 8 FOC to get 3 bastions up and running is great in theory I would struggle to see an opening on the table that would give them all a chance to get their 7'' charges + reach all onto the enemy caster for a kill.

Anyhoo just a little feedback and food for thought that I hope made at least some sense. All the best,

Az

[nicholas_342]

Hey, I'm just glad somebody bothered to respond. Too often it seems like nobody wants to throw their two cents in. Five focus is a bit of a problem and is the reason why I never played him when I first got him last year. Between then and now I switched to dwarves and got used to only having 5 focus with Gorten so I'm not too worried about that and I will have access to extra focus to fuel the jack and the spells. That's actually a unit of Knights Exemplar not the Knights Exemplar Errants so no UA and the KE are actually pretty good at taking out heavy jacks. The only ones they have some trouble with are the Khador one's. So between them, the Reckoner, and the KE, enemy jacks are covered. Rhupert would be nice, and I do have him and adding pathfinder onto the daughters could make for some interresting options. My reinforcements for this list are probably going to be another unit of KE and the KEE Seni, or a min unit of KEE with their UA, as Gravius is probably going in with eKreoss. I'll give Rhupert a try, and thanks for the suggestion.

[regleant]

Just curious on your win condition. Are you going for assassination or attrition? Or some mixture of the two? I've been looking at an assassination-style list with him using Vengers (13" threat), but haven't tried it out yet to see how it works. Curious to hear battle reports from others.

[angel_aZrael]

Ah apologies dude, my bad mixing up the Knights with Errants. I definitely give the thumbs up for them smashing jacks, P+S 16 on last guy if you're lucky to have it work out well with keeping 1-2 alive. Bit of a newby question from me in regards to your re-inforcements, can a KEE Seni be attached to a KE unit? I'm just a bit confused about why go for the KEE Seni if he's doesn't give his bonuses through Leadership.

In regards to the forums, I definitely feel your pain for replies. Only seems to be "way out there" lists or arguments that generate a lot of posts.

[nicholas_342]

@regleant,
Pure assasination. Daughters, bastions or KE any of them charging through enemy lines could be brutal. Or if the caster is staying well back from the army then the daughters and the KE could just run through the enemy lines leaving testament the bastions and the jacks in front of the enemy lines. What do you do, turn your army around to take care of the immediate threat to your caster, or try to get past a handful of bastions, the Avatar, and a Reckoner.


@angel,
Both the KE seni and the KEE seni don't actually attach to a unit. The KEE seni does provide some perks (hunter) to the KEE and no one else, where as the KE seni is just a beat stick. It's more a matter of a mat 8 rat 7 weapon master with assault and a blessed crossbow. He's not great, but he's not bad which is why he's 2 points where as the KE seni is 3 points. the other big reason is just limited by my model selection. I started out menoth by building a eKreoss tier list and I can put down on the table a 100 pt eKreoss tier 4 list with no proxies(yes, I have a habit of bragging about that, and then they went and released plastic exemplars. And that is pretty much the extent of my menoth collection so my 2 point choices are pretty limited. I have the KEE Seni, a paladin, or a Vassal and that's it. Obviously the last one is out so the choice is between the first two. I'll probably end up going with the paladin because he does hit harder on the charge. Or I could go with two KE Seni's and just forget about the extra point which might not be two bad. I'll have to think about that option cause that could be mean.