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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNoob View Post
    Why? theme force and Searforge seems like good idea to run which is limiting it to rhulic models anyways?

    plus, he is a General for Rhulic so it makes fluff sense?
    It would be kind of a bad feat even if it wasn't Rhulic only. It's not terrible, and his spell list *is* good, but...

    I guess at this point my opinion is that he really wants to be FOC7, but almost certainly won't be.

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    Has anyone said for sure what contracts Ossrum works for?

    Honestly, his feat seems pretty good, just because of the Forge Guard. Not Gorten good, but I've played Khador long enough to know the value of +2 SPD and Pathfinder. Even if just used to run and survive shooting its not too shabby. Spell list seems worth while.

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    +2 spd and pathfinder, and +2 arm is a bad feat? I can't agree. That is really close to damiano for feat power, and damiano's feat is stellar. Spd vs str, i think speed wins often, but you get less, pathfinder vs no pushing, pathfinder wins easily, +2 arm vs +3, damiano has that one. I'd say it's a great feat, rhul only isn't that bad since that is what he wants to take anyway.
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    Don't all merc caster want to be FOC 7, except Fiona of course?

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    Yeah that feat is REALLY good for Searforge loyalists. Pathfinder is a BIG problem for them. 11" threat + pathfinding Forgegaurd is a great thing. Also, is the pathfinder portion of the feat the only thing that is rhul-specific?

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    Searforge gets 4" extra deployment. You go 2nd and deploy non AD @ 14" from the baseline. You then activate Awesome and pop feat. THor advances 7", Pronto's 2 Bashers 7" and then Bashers Slam another 10" [all with Pathfinder]. In total that's 31" from your table edge and you've gone 2nd. If they've moved 4" off their deployment zone you've now made contact!

    And your Bashers are also +2 ARM. Will need to see if the feat is a Pulse vs. a Aura effect though.
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    Okay statline (Madhammer-ish), potentially interesting weapon, pretty darn good feat (need more details. Do Rhulics gain pathfinder and everyone else all the rest, Rhulics only gain it all? Army? Control area? One unit?). Really sexy spell list..
    Focus will really sell him. 7 and he's gold. 6 is more likely. 5 is probable to pay for the Dwarf Tax. D:

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    the only releases in the book are galleon, g.awesome, and e alexia

    as far as focus, he is 6.

    As far as awesome, he is awesome.

    I think the full feat is friendly rhul, so you are likely taking him in theme or sea forge.
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    Would the feat work for Brun and Lug?
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    The bear isn't rhul so it would not. IT would work on the dwarf, but that isn't nearly as exciting.
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    The ARM buff will help with Stonehold though. Nonentheless the SPD buff would have been nice on Lug if Brun charges and keeps him out of his control area. WIth luck Lug could have advanced up and got there anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannonball View Post
    The ARM buff will help with Stonehold though. Nonentheless the SPD buff would have been nice on Lug if Brun charges and keeps him out of his control area. WIth luck Lug could have advanced up and got there anyhow.
    Lug's squishy enough that a good opponent will kill him instead of the Stonholded/feated dwarf.
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    I think Ossrum is fantastic. I can't wait to use him. The feat is amazing, spell list amazing with its 4 upkeeps. Gotta love that tier list.

    To anyone here whining about how it only effects rhulic models: stop yer whining; you're merc players. For years us Rhulic loyalists have been told to stop whining about our lack of options and start playing other contracts. Now, the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it? If you don't like it, man up, start playing more Searforge and stop whining.
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    I am really disappointed if his feat only works on Rhulic models. I am glad I have a bunch of them now however.

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    What factions can Ossram work for, or is he Searforge only? TO me, he seems too good to work for Highborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by absent View Post
    the only releases in the book are galleon, g.awesome, and e alexia
    No Magnus3? Huh.

    Quote Originally Posted by absent View Post
    as far as focus, he is 6.
    Ah, carp.

    Quote Originally Posted by absent View Post
    I think the full feat is friendly rhul, so you are likely taking him in theme or sea forge.
    Sea Forge? Is that a new faction? Maybe the one played by Dorfs?

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    seaRforge. *
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    I completely understand why people wanted Ossrum to have 7 FOC and his feat to be friendly faction, but for my money, he is absolutely fantastic, and I cannot wait to play him

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    Ossrum looks REALLY damn good. Rhulic only isn't even that bad, since it effects his battlegroup, I loves me some Forgeguard, and he looks custom made for supporting High Shields. Not to mention he can give Bulldoze to his battlegroup, which is one of my favorite abilities in the game just because it's so fun. I really can't understate how excited I am for mercenaries in this book. Between Damiano, Rocinante and Sylys, and now these, us Mercs are getting some legitimately powerful pieces to work with- so much so that Magnus may just have to jump ship! This Mercenary cake is starting to taste reeeaaallll good, MagnusTheJust.

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    am I the only one who's a little dissappointed, that mercs get the ONLY Colossal (maybe also the kraken), that tha only ONE open fist ... still Brine and the Freebooter (and other crocs with WrongEye) are our only 2HThrow options ... I'm allready scared by flying Beast09 or Dragos under eIrusk and we "only" get Drag with a 10" Weapon ... ok, and a bunch of AOE's...

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    Any disappointment I feel at the lack of two-handed throws is more than made up for by the ability to drag something and beat it to death with PS 21 melee attacks. We lose the ability to throw enemies away in order to bring the closer to us, which I am beyond okay with, not to mention we'll still auto-win any one handed throws we attempt. I'd also like to point out that other Colossals cannot throw something at a Warcaster and then shoot them to death, but we CAN drag a Warcaster and then skewer them.

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    General Awesome is going to live up to his monicker!! My 30 Forgeguard, 3 Arty, and 34 Highshields looks forward to serving under him!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Rassilon View Post
    I think Ossrum is fantastic. I can't wait to use him. The feat is amazing, spell list amazing with its 4 upkeeps. Gotta love that tier list.

    To anyone here whining about how it only effects rhulic models: stop yer whining; you're merc players. For years us Rhulic loyalists have been told to stop whining about our lack of options and start playing other contracts. Now, the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it? If you don't like it, man up, start playing more Searforge and stop whining.

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    considering that a) Rhulic Models include his jacks and b) 2 min units of forgeguard seem to bee a good idea under him, the Feat is only halve bad ... + H&J are kinda of an auto-include with him, so even outside of seaforge he's still great

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    Honestly, if his feat is Rhulic only, it becomes one of the worst feats in Mercs. I thought PP were trying to convince everyone that Mercs were one big faction, not a couple of small factions. This seems like a step backwards.

    That being said, he still sounds good, but really one-dimensional until more Rhulic units/solos come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnOSpencer View Post
    Honestly, if his feat is Rhulic only, it becomes one of the worst feats in Mercs. I thought PP were trying to convince everyone that Mercs were one big faction, not a couple of small factions. This seems like a step backwards.

    That being said, he still sounds good, but really one-dimensional until more Rhulic units/solos come out.
    At minimum he can give his battlegroup Mobility and 2/5s of Strykers feat. That's not terrible. But like Constance Blaize whom generally wants to bring some friends but doesn't have to go full bore. Ossrum is going to want a rhulic unit or two.

    Just having snipe opens up a number of non-rhulic models as fun ideas.

    Oh and another thing to keep in mind. Think of Nyss Hunters, with Ossrum they are still going to be 1 speed higher then his speed for dwarves on feat turn. They also already have pathfinder. It'd be a cool feat with them, but the absence doesn't mean they'll be terrible with Ossrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnOSpencer View Post
    Honestly, if his feat is Rhulic only, it becomes one of the worst feats in Mercs. I thought PP were trying to convince everyone that Mercs were one big faction, not a couple of small factions. This seems like a step backwards.

    That being said, he still sounds good, but really one-dimensional until more Rhulic units/solos come out.
    It's not at all, it's opening up searforge as a viable contract in tournament play, outside some cornercase use of gorton in searforge as a pure anti armor only option, which means it's making mercs one big faction with all 4 contracts available in good competitive play, instead of just 3. It's purely good. Besides like others are saying, you could play 70% rhul and some sprinkles in a highborn and have a just fine feat and list.
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    Well, he's got Martial Discipline, that's not Rhulic exclusive, is it? Seems to me that it'll be great in any list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenlen View Post
    Well, he's got Martial Discipline, that's not Rhulic exclusive, is it? Seems to me that it'll be great in any list.
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    Lets just do a little cross comparison.

    Bring no rhulic solos or units, hi feat affects battlegroup only. Bring all rhulic solos and units, his feat affects every. I'd call that a pretty big push to play him as searforge.
    Also, his theme is basically "Rhulic or Die".

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    A little off the current train of conversation, but are there any fluff spoilers around yet? I am hoping that we get some conclusion to the battle at Rhydden.

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    I have to say that Ossrum's tier is the first to make me consider not taking generic Searforge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StJason View Post
    I have to say that Ossrum's tier is the first to make me consider not taking generic Searforge...
    This.... 4 free upkeeps, trenches for my highshields and ADing my forgeguard yes please!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by absent View Post
    It's not at all, it's opening up searforge as a viable contract in tournament play, outside some cornercase use of gorton in searforge as a pure anti armor only option, which means it's making mercs one big faction with all 4 contracts available in good competitive play, instead of just 3. It's purely good. Besides like others are saying, you could play 70% rhul and some sprinkles in a highborn and have a just fine feat and list.
    IMO, Searforge is already a viable contract...for one of your lists. This just gives us a caster who will either only be used in Searforge (which many people do not play) or is less than stellar with Highborn or Four Star(which ever he works with). It's not like the feat would be broken if it worked for friendly faction models (just really good).

    I like what he has, otherwise. I think he'll end up like Jarl for me. A caster with really good spells and abilities but a feat you use whenever, as it'll almost never be game changing.

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    I've heard that our new Rhulic buddy is also an ally caster. Can anyone confirm this and if so who is he allied with?

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    Is it Khador? I hope it's Khador. If there's one thing Khador is missing, it's Fire for Effect, Martial Discipline, and the ability to Bulldoze models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    I've heard that our new Rhulic buddy is also an ally caster. Can anyone confirm this and if so who is he allied with?
    The guy that reviewed the book in that vid that was posted said noting about ally, he did however say who ossram could work for (Cygnar, Khador & Protect). Therefore NOT an ally.

    It's also frankly a daft rumour, why would a Rhulic general be an Ally caster...?!?! allys are models that are in faction but also mercs, not the other way around, if he was an ally caster it would be Rhulic + Searforge, not any other faction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnOSpencer View Post
    I like what he has, otherwise. I think he'll end up like Jarl for me. A caster with really good spells and abilities but a feat you use whenever, as it'll almost never be game changing.
    +2 ARM, +2 SPD and on your battlegroup can sure as heck change a game. Any infantry you bring which benefits is bonus.

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    This.... 4 free upkeeps, trenches for my highshields and ADing my forgeguard yes please!!!
    I'd rather AD my highshields so their slow butts can actually make it to the trenches. The forgeguard will catch up.
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    I love the new Ashlynn sculpt, but I really hope we can avoid another droopy, Harbinger of Menoth flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rydiafan View Post
    +2 ARM, +2 SPD and on your battlegroup can sure as heck change a game. Any infantry you bring which benefits is bonus.
    I agree but, as a feat, it is kinda lackluster. I guess it's really no less situational than MacBain's feat, which can be countered by enemy spells and upkeeps.

    He definitely has me excited to pick up some Rhulic jacks, so I can play him (and the other Rhulic casters).

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