Gaspy3 spoiled.

[NecroticDischarge]

Asphyxious the Hellbringer

Feat: Same as spoiled
P+S 16 Reach
Cull Soul
Blood Boon
DEF ARM same as before but +1 arm.
4 WJ points

Ashen Veil
Bone Shaker
Carnage
Hex Blast
Mobility
Scything Touch

Vociferon
Arcane Extension
Death Harvest ? Can move any number of soul tokens from Vociferon to Warcaster
Ghost Shield
Soul tokens from warriors in his CMD range (9)
Channel through this model
Blood witch defense bane knight armor*
5 *boxes

Sweet.

[Temujin Khan]

I didn't know what most of this did so I did some research:

P+S 16 Reach
Blood Boon

Blood Boon - Once per activation, immediately after resolving an attack in which it destroyed a living enemy model with this weapon this model can cast a spell with COST 3 or less without spending focus/fury.

Ashen Veil
Bone Shaker
Carnage
Hex Blast
Mobility
Scything Touch

Ashen Veil grants Concealment to a model/unit and penalizes the attack rolls of a nearby enemy living model.

Bone Shaker - A low cost, ranged offensive spell with a triggered ability. When the spell boxes a living/undead enemy warrior model, you can make a full advance with the enemy model (ignoring free strikes), then a normal melee attack and then it's removed from the game.

Carnage - A medium cost spell that gives a bonus to friendly faction models' melee attack rolls against enemy models in the caster's CTRL area.

Hex Blast - Average cost, ranged AoE offensive spell that causes enemy upkeep spells/animi on the model/unit directly hit to immediately expire. Great spell for debuffing an enemy model or unit that is giving your army problems because of spells like Arcane Shield or Iron Flesh.

Mobility - This spell grants a SPD bonus and Pathfinder to the caster's entire battlegroup for a moderate cost. Sadly, this isn't an upkeep. Charging over any kind of rough terrain or obstacles to surprise the enemy can be devastating to the enemy's plan.

Scything Touch - Upkeep that gives a friendly model/unit +2 to melee damage rolls and affected models gain Critical Corrosion on their normal melee attacks.

Arcane Extension
Ghost Shield

Arcane Extension [Mortenebra] - When allocating Focus you may give Focus to Warjacks from the same battlegroup in Deryliss's Command Range. Deryliss must be in Master Necrotech Mortenebra's Control Range to use this ability. This can effectively extend her Control Range artificially, but only for allocating Focus. (just swap out names)

Ghost Shield is a rule found on models which have some method of collecting souls (Soul Taker, Gatekeeper etc.). These models gain a pseudo-power-field from their soul tokens; every soul token they have on them grants them +1 ARM. A nice survivability boost if you can get it.

--- From Battle college and Dakka Dakka ---

[Sanctjud]

Meh, no new spells from the level 3 Casters, I R Disappointed in them :-/

[Kuwanger23]

Damn can't take a skarlock with him. But I guess you would only use it to cycle scything touch. He seems decent.

[Barrynstein]

4 warjack points? Now i am seriously disappointed. No spell slave just a personal arc node and enough points to get a free other arc node. Clearly no synergy with the battle engine or any of our other soul collecting units. Blackbanes and BLT will be no good with him because their abilities remove models from play. The over seer collects souls to be useful so no point in taking one there again. Deathjack just competes for souls.
I am really glad we got another model that really enjoys dealing with infantry. I mean who cares about khador heavies. Not like behemoth or beast 09 or the spriggan ever see any playtime.

[Kuwanger23]

What model is it that you are referring to that can't deal with heavies? Is it the scything touched caster? Or the p+s 17 base with no tokens/buffs/debuffs? I don't know about you but my blood witches with scything touch sneeze on khador jacks. He seems solid. Decent stats and with a 9" bubble
Of collecting souls your opponent has to try to kill him.

[Lalnuir]

I mean who cares about khador heavies. Not like behemoth or beast 09 or the spriggan ever see any playtime.

Yeah it's not like bane thrall hit at effectively ps15 + weapon master. . .

Heh MAT10 bane thralls with Carnage and BLT means iron fleshed winter guard can suck it.

[Tèarion]

I am very sad. We have infantry to deal with heavies, but with the firepower of the Collossals or Nemo3 they will never make it to the enemy.
Also Gaspy1+2 have teleport, now he has Scything touch a good spell, but I thought he would get something like gatecrasher or so.
Same with WJ points. Gaspy2 doesn't need 6 WJP, Gaspy3 would love them...not sure what mobility does, but if its a worthy spell he wants him some Heavy Jacks. Not totally convinced of him, the +1ARM will not keep him alive any better with a medium base and abilities wanting him at the frontline.

[Cronix]

This is an awesome warcaster... He is amazing toolbox caster for melee units. Sure he lost the I win button, but now he is a challenge to play.

[ResurrectioN]

Bone shaker is crap but at least you get some synergy with Carnage up.
Ahen Veil on Satyxis or Erebus or DJ, because why to hell not.

Feat stays bit crappy.
It will be hard to catch caster in.
Heavies won't care that you got souls or heal d3 if they can get charge on him.

Does Vociferon care if souls are friendly or enemy?
Too bad our best living unit is so fast it will leave him behind.
If he an collect friendly souls Gorgers with Ashen might see some play.

MAT 7 mechanitrall horde is all i can think of

[Adurot]

Mobility is +2 Speed and Pathfinder on his Battlegroup. Costs two, not an upkeep sadly. Arc Nodes would be Stupid if it was though.

[legendaryrat]

He looks really geared for supporting and keeping himself out of harms way. Bone Shaker looks like it would do well for messing with single wound infantry for taking out UA's. Mobility is almost like giving Ghostly to your whole team. Nothing to buff defensive stats with so he'll be taking Banes I guess. I like it.

[Adurot]

Also, Bone Shaker ain't bad. Charge, kill, use Blood Boon to cast Bone Shaker to kill something, walk it back and kill something else. Kills three models with one melee attack. Not amazing, but cool potential.

[Barrynstein]

What model is it that you are referring to that can't deal with heavies? Is it the scything touched caster? Or the p+s 17 base with no tokens/buffs/debuffs? I don't know about you but my blood witches with scything touch sneeze on khador jacks. He seems solid. Decent stats and with a 9" bubble
Of collecting souls your opponent has to try to kill him.

Your dice must be very kind as my blood witches with scything touch are maybe doing 3 points of damage on avg, not theoretical median, on actual rolling dice averages. On a charge i am lucky to get maybe 9 points on a good roll same set up.

[Drzombieface]

He looks solid. Not disappointed at all.

If you're thinking about whining that he seems UP compared to his epic version, yeah, that's probably because Gaspy2 is one of, if not the, most broken caster(s) in the entire game. You just can't compare Gaspy3 to that.

I for one am excited to have a version of Asphyxious that has a high skill cap due to not being outright broken.

[Ulli]

Why all the complains about "only 4WJ-points"?
He comes along with a 2-point-solo like Mortenebra. So yes, he only has 4 WJ-points.

He brings some interessting things to Cryx.
We have a lot of troops with crap MAT (McThralls, Revenants, Ghost Raider) or at least an ok MAT (Banes without Tartarus, Satyxis, ...). He solved that problem.
He also brings a new and interesting defensive buff to Cryx (Ashen Veil).
The one thing I miss is a solid ARM-Debuff (like Parasite or Curse of Shadows).

The only thing I was wondering about is:
When you use Mobility (fast Warjacks) and Carnage (make hitting with Warjacks (and troopers) a lot easier), you don't have that many FOC left to feed your Warjacks. You have to count on Soultoken (Vociferon, Feat), which isn't that good to plan with.

[Indragnir]

It's quite early, but I'm a bit dissapointed.

IF all spoilers are right and nothing is missing... He and his skarlock really want to stay close to front lines but have bad MAT and ZERO defensive rules, his feat asks for a front line game and have ZERO defensive measures. Look at Vociferon, collect souls from 9", great, no stealth, no incorporeal just a 13/16 with 5 live. Will dead by any single charging pow 10 model on average...

Spell list is nice, not über but nice.

So he must be played from the back: say goodbye to his amazing pow 16, blood boon and feat (against WM). Vociferon won't get too many souls but for some infiltrating models like Eliminators or MHA-like models.

IF Vociferon can transfer the souls at any moment he could be used a expendable model, move there, gather some souls, he dies but asphy gets his souls.
I think the best from him is another Hex Blast. Carnage is nice but it's a potential trap: you get close you have ZERO defensive measures, you spend minimum 3 focus...

Again it's a bit early but time will tell.

Edit: Lich can pull souls on Mant. Phase, so no expendable skarlock.

[Adurot]

I heard Vociferon was Def15. And with Ghost Armor if he's doing his job then he's goin to be Arm19 most of the time. Plus he's going to be nine inches from where the enemy Used to be. Will probably end up dying to Warjacks shooting him more often than being charged by infantry. But yeah, I forsee him being a big target for the enemy to want to kill.

[Indragnir]

Was reported as def 13. Def 15 is another story.

[ColonelCurry]

He might be cool with a hoard of stalkers. SPD 9 MAT 9 from 28" out seems pretty decent. With carnage he can run banes without Tartarus, if he's being played in a character restricted environment.

Ashen veil on Satyxis raiders is pretty good as well.

He gives +MAT and +SPD in an already MAT and SPD heavy faction. Seems sweet. Feat turn could be huge, against a smart opponent it probably wont.

Love the models, especially vociferon. I for one am looking forward to playing him.

[Slice]

No Teleport makes me sad

The rest looks solid in theory but needs a lot of playtesting first.

[Lalnuir]

He might be cool with a hoard of stalkers. SPD 9 MAT 9 from 28" out seems pretty decent. With carnage he can run banes without Tartarus, if he's being played in a character restricted environment.

He can but then you have speed 5 non-reach infantry and no way to speed them up or prevent charges too them and if they die you can't bring them back to life.

[PG_Tilaurin]

How about the theme force? Last one was a bit naff with such a lean to Cephalyx, hoping the new one is interesting?

[Gamingdevil]

How about the theme force? Last one was a bit naff with such a lean to Cephalyx, hoping the new one is interesting?

Was in the other tread:

Not sure how much I can post of his Tier List, but here's the allowed stuff(oh hi Malice), sans the benefits:

Jacks: Non-character warjacks, Cankerworm, Malice
Units: Bile Thralls, Mech Thralls, Necrosurgeons, Soulhunters, Withershadow Combine
Solos: Warwitch Sirens, non-character undead Cryx solos
Battle Engines: Wrath Engines

Tier 1 — <Redacted> per Helljack included. <-- dpes that count the Kraken as a helljack for this purpose?
Tier 2 — Pistol Wraith. <redacted> <-- I like Pistol Wraiths, so cool.
Tier 3 — Three or more units. <Redacted> <-- Not too hard since you'll have WSC as one unit already.
Tier 4 — Plus Kraken. <Redacted> <-- I may not always go this far, but not bad overall.

Don't know what the bonuses are, but the unit options look a bit few. With Ashen Veil I'd like Satyxis for instance, in the Tier list, Soul Hunters would have to be the jamming force, which would get them killed rather quickly.

[Adurot]

Free Necrotech, Pistol Wraiths get AD, one free Corpse/Soul Token on a model of choice per unit taken, +2" deployment.

[PG_Tilaurin]

Malice pretty much sells me on that, I've been really frustrated to not use him in a theme force.

I'll miss my Bane's, but I can't say I'm too sad to see them go - I'd rather use the 30 McThralls I've got and swarm people in true Cryxian fashion than hit like a truck (at least in this list, Goreshade2's theme is probably better for that...)

I wish I knew what the bonuses were, in particular the fourth one - I'm not sold on the Kraken, and it's a very big investment.

[PG_Tilaurin]

Thanks Adurot, looks pretty sweet!

Tier 3.

Asphyxious the Hellbound +4
Vociferous
Cankerworm 5pts
Malice 9pts
Slayer 6pts
Nightwretch 4pts
Mechanithralls x10 5pts
Mechanithralls x10 5pts
Bile Thralls x6 5pts
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls 2pts
Pistol Wraith 3pts
Pistol Wraith 3pts
Warwith Siren 2pts
Withershadow Combine 5pts
Necrotech & Scrap Thrall 0pts
Necrotech & Scrap Thrall 0pts

54pts, 5 models start with a corpse or soul token, AD Pistol Wraiths, free Necrotech for each heavy

[Gamingdevil]

Free Necrotech, Pistol Wraiths get AD, one free Corpse/Soul Token on a model of choice per unit taken, +2" deployment.

Meh, cool, meh, cool. Not bad, not wow.

[Adurot]

Oh, apparently there's another version of spoiler I Just saw which says Every model starts with a Soul/Corpse. That would be Amazing, but probably too good to be true.

[PG_Tilaurin]

That'd obviously be nicer but I won't hold my breath on it - frankly having them to hand out sounds interesting and neat enough

Gah, want! Anyone know if he was on sale already?

[Island]

Tier looks interesting!

[Sheer_Falacy]

He does seem very confused as to what he wants to do. Mobility says take jacks, but he doesn't give free charges or anything and if he's doing mobility/carnage he only has 2 focus to give them, even without upkeep costs. He has a personal skarlock with a cool ability that requires it play forward, which is just sad if it's really defense 13, and, if it truly caps out at 3 souls, then it's not really doing much more than a normal skarlock would. His theme force wants him to take Kraken, which apparently RFPs at boxed so that's directly counter to his special skarlock.

He actually seems to have very little reason to take an arc node, because a) vociferon is one, b) his only offensive spells are hex blast and bone shaker, and c) he'll be within 14'' of the front lines due to carnage. They buffed his weapon and gave him an ability that triggers when he kills something, but he's still mat 6 and if he's using carnage to buff his own mat and mobility to get himself into combat he's not doing much else.

I can see ashen veil being very strong on Satyxis raiders, and I can see Cankerworm being interesting with mobility because it'll apply to his affinity. Otherwise, I'm just not sure what he wants to do. He looks cool (except that he looks really, really tilted), and he's got some interesting stuff, but he also seems to have Skornergy.

[Gamingdevil]

You keep calling Vociferon a Skarlock, but if the OP are his full rules, then he does not have Spellslave, it's also likely that Vociferon is an Attachment and so a regular Skarlock will not even be an option.

I don't think Mobility "says take jacks", having Pathfinder and speed on the jacks you do have is nice, but it also gives Pathfinder and speed to your caster, which could set him up for an assassination. It just gives you the option to play jacks.

[Adurot]

I've heard two versions of Vociferon. One is that he's an Arc Node, which would be sweet. Two is that he has the range boost to Jack Focus Allocation thing that Morty's Skarlock has, which would be Meh.

[PG_Tilaurin]

I'd say he's probably both but without the Spell Slave action.

I'm thinking Seethers would be nice out of theme, they've got the focus to get stuck in and Mobility would be deadly with them. To be honest I'm tempted to drop a Pistol Wraith from my list above to upgrade the Slayer...

[PG_Tilaurin]

Come to think of it, does he need Cankerworm? Hmm...

[Lamoron]

I did a write up of the current spoilers here, not including the theme force and with the possibility of everything spoiled being a pile of crap

[Sheer_Falacy]

You keep calling Vociferon a Skarlock, but if the OP are his full rules, then he does not have Spellslave, it's also likely that Vociferon is an Attachment and so a regular Skarlock will not even be an option.

I don't think Mobility "says take jacks", having Pathfinder and speed on the jacks you do have is nice, but it also gives Pathfinder and speed to your caster, which could set him up for an assassination. It just gives you the option to play jacks.

I'm calling him a skarlock because that's what he's called in the description on the warstore (http://www.thewarstore.com/product73384.html). No, I don't think he has spell slave, which is why, if he only can collect 3 souls, he's doing something very much like a standard skarlock, but more versatile and way easier for the enemy to counter.

As for Asphyxious himself going for the assassination, the problem with that is he's mat 6. He can boost that or cast carnage, but either way it's costing a lot of focus.

It also gives +2 speed to vociferon, which as far as I can tell isn't too useful because he doesn't seem to have anything to do besides run. No spoilers have even mentioned if he has weapons.

[PG_Wankel]

to me he seems a hybrid between jacks and infantatry. which in my opinion is nice.

Like the AD bonus on pistol wratihs a lot from theme force. also malice + wsc in theme. Just need to buy mechtrhalls + surgeons i guess.

I was not really expecting a "better" infantary caster for gaspy3, thats why i am not too disapointed. Have to admit he sounds tricky in some way to play, but i am going to play him a lot...

Seems that the kraken will work well with him. 4 inch sweeps with bonuses for corpse collection and voicyfron can collect the souls if he stands near the kraken.

[Lamoron]

Oh yeah... a picture of V.