Ossrum, I think I'm in love

[Shogran]

After hearing his rules, he is my new to go to guy for Rhul

If you don't know RHQ did a whole book spoil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34jH0...eature=g-all-u

[Shogran]

44.16 is the Merc stuff

[TheNoob]

What is Martial Discipline? or better, does any caster have it so where can i find it?

[Shogran]

Its see through and move through your own troops eIrusk

[DocMerc]

In the video he talks about using galleon with him. He keeps making mention of the snipe spell on galleon. If galleon is not rhulic, how is that going to work?

[PG_ikildkenny]

He's mistaken ... as simple as that ...

though pMagnus has snipe ... drag something 16" under double powder ratio ... you could pull a heavy in turn 1 (or 2) for a total of 21" (movement + snipe + double powder ratio + 10" harpoon) from your opponent's side of the board ... thats a 9" movement from your opponent to have you not pull his heavy right in front of your whole force...

[nicholas_342]

It could allow your forge guard to charge through your high shields. Situational but still kinda nice. The general sounds great, but I have a question. I will admit that I only listened to the part about Ossrum but he makes references to using a three different spells with the colossal. Snipe would be great, energizer doesn't work on the colossal and unstopable force gives the colossal bulldoze? How is this possible, or is this guy just not aware that Rhulic casters can't control non-Rhulic warjacks?

[PG_ikildkenny]

he's not aware of that r(h)ule (^^) ... though I allready said that ... in fact ... read my above post ^^

but ... highshields behind forgeguard! ... finally one could use that special order without that rist ... keep them behind forgeguard - move through them - shoot - move back ... that sounds good in my book

[PG_DaveZee]

Galleon will be seeing some play with MacBain and Damiano, for sure. And, one of these days, I will have to play an Unbound game with Ossrum and a caster who can take Galleon.

[MagnustheJust]

Its see through and move through your own troops eIrusk

Slight amendment.. It is small and medium base warrior models that can ignore each other for line of sight, attacks, movement, and charges.

And epic Flag Man stole the idea from Tyrant Xerxis, who had it way back in the dark days of MK-I...

[Domoto]

Well there is definitely some truth behind him being given the name of General Awesome

[MagnustheJust]

Ogrun Bokurs slamming THROUGH a shield walled unit of Highshields...

[CrashOverride]

Oh man, after seeing the spoiled stats, I have no excuse not to start buying dwarves. Now I need to build a list for him in anticipation. lol.

[lastspartacus]

I really want to like him, but Gorten and Durgen both offer so much. Ossrum has great spells, but 4 are upkeeps, one is energiser...I can't think of a more focus starved caster in the game, and so prone to upkeep hate.

[Zelot # 87]

Actually he has 3 upkeeps:

Bullet Dodger
Fire for Effect
Snipe

His 2 battle group spells which are not upkeeps:

Energizer
Unstoppable Force

His last spell is his offensive spell and it also is not an upkeep:

Strangle Hold

[Zelot # 87]

Personally I am super excited about him; he allows us to play our models differently then Gorten or Madhammer. Snipe and Energizer are going to help us get that first strike, Bullet Dodger on Ossrum will make him DEF 16 while standing out in the open (who would have ever thought Rhulics would have DEF 16). Fire for Effect is going to make almost any model fantastic, Herne & Jonne firing 3 3" AOEs that are fully boosted, OAC doing a CRA will damage Khador 'jacks with the blast damage on average rolls. Unstoppable Force is fantastic for scenarios being able to bump enemy models out of control zones or open charge lanes, also if your gun bunnies are stuck in melee you can pivot around the model until you almost leave their front arc and then when you push them they leave so you do not suffer a free strike and you get to shoot them in the back as a bonus. His feat not only increases our SPD and ARM but also gives Pathfinder. We are now fast, hit harder and better armored. His only weakness I see is Cryx and their incorporeal models but that has almost always been a problem for Rhulics so I am OK with that it is what helps define who we are.

The only things I could possibly gripe about is Strangle Hold.

From the rumors Strangle Hold was said to be Lock the Target which I personally think is a cooler spell but just like Gorten and Madhammer I don't think I am going to go around flinging offensive spells so it is really a moot point.

[StJason]

Bullet Dodger on Ossrum will make him DEF 16 while standing out in the open (who would have ever thought Rhulics would have DEF 16).

Holy crap. Just realized.

In his trenches, he is effectively DEF 20, and immune to most blasts!

...excuse me, I got to go change my pants...

[Cannibalbob]

I really like him, but I am still sad that we don't have a true pure jack caster. I still want a Rhulic caster that can effectively run 4+ Drillers.

[maxxev]

Holy crap. Just realized.

In his trenches, he is effectively DEF 20, and immune to most blasts!

...excuse me, I got to go change my pants...

How many blasts are going to scare him at ARM 17 anyway?

[StJason]

How many blasts are going to scare him at ARM 17 anyway?

POW 7s will ding him at 17 on a 10+...

Still. DEF 20, ARM 17 and 18 wounds. El sicko grande...

[maxxev]

Holy crap. Just realized.

In his trenches, he is effectively DEF 20, and immune to most blasts!

...excuse me, I got to go change my pants...

How many blasts are going to scare him at ARM 17 anyway?

[Weezinggg]

I was kinda hoping for a jack caster too, Ossrum is pretty awesome though. Its okay in another 3 years or so we may get a jack caster

[mikethefish]

POW 7s will ding him at 17 on a 10+

You mean 11+

[Zelot # 87]

If Ossrum casts Fire for Effect on an OAC and the other 4 OACs do a CRA both ranged attacks will be almost the same in accuracy and damage (direct and blast).

RAT 5 + 4 (CRA) + 7 (die roll) = 16
RAT 5 + 10.5 (die roll) = 15.5

POW 12 + 4 (CRA) + 7 (die roll) = 23
POW 12 + 10.5 (die roll) = 22.5

POW 6 + 4 (CRA) + 7 (die roll) = 17
POW 6 + 10.5 (die roll) = 16.5

I will edit this in to my post about General Ossrum in the Searforge tactics thread.

[perilsensitive]

I don't care if Gorten's blue
Durgen's gray and Magnus too
Fiona I don't care about you
It's Ossrum, I'm in love

Bart you can fall apart
Constance, Ashlynn break my heart
Oh, Shae doesn't even start
It's Ossrum I'm in love

Damiano, wait
And Macbain always comes too late
But Ossrum, never hesitate...

[perilsensitive]

double post

[MagnustheJust]

I don't care if Gorten's blue
Durgen's gray and Magnus too
Fiona I don't care about you
It's Ossrum, I'm in love

Bart you can fall apart
Constance, Ashlynn break my heart
Oh, Shae doesn't even start
It's Ossrum I'm in love

Damiano, wait
And Macbain always comes too late
But Ossrum, never hesitate...

Is anybody else disturbed that he took the "happy" Cure song to make that little diddy???

[Zelot # 87]

The real Magnusthejust does not get disturbed by such trifle things. Who are you and what have you done with the real Magnusthejust? Clearly this is another sign of secret government agencies working in the shadows abducting innocent people.

(just got back from reading http://www.theydonotcomeinpeace.com/index.html)

[MagnustheJust]

The real Magnusthejust does not get disturbed by such trifle things. Who are you and what have you done with the real Magnusthejust? Clearly this is another sign of secret government agencies working in the shadows abducting innocent people.

(just got back from reading http://www.theydonotcomeinpeace.com/index.html)

[JohnOSpencer]

The only things I could possibly gripe about is Strangle Hold.

From the rumors Strangle Hold was said to be Lock the Target which I personally think is a cooler spell but just like Gorten and Madhammer I don't think I am going to go around flinging offensive spells so it is really a moot point.

Honestly, I would much rather have Stranglehold rather than Lock the Target. Making someone lose their movement or action is probably better than can't run or charge or be placed (as it does the most of that effect, too). Either way, he has one of the best 2 focus attack spells in the game.

[nicholas_342]

Is anybody else disturbed that he took the "happy" Cure song to make that little diddy???

It's actually "Friday I'm in Love" not "Happy the Man"

On another note, Ossrum is actually pretty focus starved. I just played a game with him and upkept bullet dodger, snipe, and fire for effect most of the game. Another focus to boost attack rolls on the avalancher with Thor to tune up the damage rolls only left two for the two gunners or his other spells. It's funny, one more focus than Gorten and he felt more focus starved than Gorten. Still great to play and obviously my new favorite toy. Well, imaginary toy until probably october

[MagnustheJust]

It's actually "Friday I'm in Love" not "Happy the Man"

Yes, that's what I am talking about!!

"Friday I'm in Love" is widely regarded by fans of the gothic music genre as the Cure's one "happy" song...

[nicholas_342]

Now I get it. I never got into the goth bit despite liking the cure so when you said Happy song I thought happy the man.

On yet another note. Are we sure that we can put fire for effect on a model and have that model be the source of a CRA and still get the boosted attack and damage? I know that in the spell it doesn't say you can't the way explosivo states that the model can't participate in a CRA, but it sounds pretty powerful if you can do it. This didn't come up in my game tonight but we were talking about it afterwards.

[Zelot # 87]

I think we can because the OAC are the only unit that can CRA with an AOE weapon. Unless I am mistaken the OAC can be used by Khador and there has not been an errata to his Fire for Effect and I can not imagine that in all the playtesting with General Ossrum that they didn't come across this combo.

[raincaller]

I think we can because the OAC are the only unit that can CRA with an AOE weapon. Unless I am mistaken the OAC can be used by Khador and there has not been an errata to his Fire for Effect and I can not imagine that in all the playtesting with General Ossrum that they didn't come across this combo.

Pretty sure OAC can't work for khador. However, that is how Fire for effect would work with CRA.

[pattison]

OAC works for the same factions as HHFG.
You get an AOE3 with really high RAT, POW17+3d6 direct hit and POW11+3d6 blast which is pretty decent.

Still I'm looking forward to use F4E with H&J. Khador players pay an additional 2 points for Valachev to get a F4E'd H&J in their army.
If their 1st ranged attack is a Scattershot, you have a very potent anti-infantry platform right there.
Leaving Searforge and the Tier list that shot can easily wipe out whole units from 14" if aided by Dougal's Artillerist & Minifeat.

[MagnustheJust]

I think we can because the OAC are the only unit that can CRA with an AOE weapon. Unless I am mistaken the OAC can be used by Khador and there has not been an errata to his Fire for Effect and I can not imagine that in all the playtesting with General Ossrum that they didn't come across this combo.

Pretty sure OAC can't work for khador. However, that is how Fire for effect would work with CRA.

Yeah... They don't work for Big Red, otherwise I'd have at least one unit by now.

[Zelot # 87]

Yeah... They don't work for Big Red...

Ehh, oh well, sucks for them.

[PG_ikildkenny]

actually it sucks for us ... I'd love a OAC in my 4* sometimes - or any "heavy" multiwound infantry for that matter ... I guess the reason for them not working for Khador was, that they got MoWs and Cygnar got nothing (and POM nothing that can shoot as is "heavy" multiwound inf)

[Zelot # 87]

OK so it sucks for Khador and those that play 4*.