Now that we know, time for Ossrum lists

[pattison]

Here's what I've been roughly thinking about.
Hits T4 if I'm right.

General Ossrum (6pts)
* Grundback Gunner (3pts)
* Grundback Gunner (3pts)
* Ghordson Driller (6pts)
Herne & Jonne (3pts)
Horgenhold Forge Guard (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Horgenhold Forge Guard (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Ogrun Assault Corps (Leader and 4 Grunts) (9pts)
Lord Rockbottom (2pts)
Thor Steinhammer (2pts)
* Grundback Blaster (3pts)
* Ghordson Basher (7pts)

Probably a tad too conservative (except OAC), but we'll see.
And nope, I'm not buying High Shields for the sake of Ossrum neither for Shae. OAC should do fine with the occasional F4E CRA and be thankful for the +2ARM.
H&J will be cleaned of dust and see some table time again with him for sure. AD into trenches & F4E makes them a lethal firebase.
Between OAC, H&J and Thor's usual Blaster I thought it would be better to give Ossrum Gunners instead of Blasters.
Rockbottom should help with the drives of Thor and the possible command checks of the min. FG units.

[Kenlen]

Ossrum is only +5 WJ points

[Zelot # 87]

Pattison why does your list come to 48 points before warjack point? Is there something missing?

[pattison]

Kenlen: Cheers, I forgot to adjust it while using Durgen in fwdcmd.
Zelot: It's German format, 42 pts. We realized that it's a very optimal game size (after a 42pts tourney in the neighboring Austria), and it quickly became the new black in the Hungarian meta.
Now I'm organizing 42 pts tournaments on a regular basis.

So with reviewed WJP a 50pts one would look like this:

General Ossrum (5pts)
* Grundback Gunner (3pts)
* Grundback Gunner (3pts)
* Ghordson Driller (6pts)
* Ghordson Basher (7pts)
Herne & Jonne (3pts)
Horgenhold Forge Guard (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Horgenhold Forge Guard (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Ogrun Assault Corps (Leader and 4 Grunts) (9pts)
Lord Rockbottom (2pts)
Thor Steinhammer (2pts)
* Grundback Blaster (3pts)
* Ghordson Basher (7pts)

Easy correction.
At 42 pts though I'd have to minimize the OAC and replace the Driller with a Rockram.

[Zelot # 87]

42 points, that sounds interesting. Do you normally take a 50 point list and just remove a unit or heavy jack? I would like to hear more about this if you do not mind.

[CrashOverride]

Hmmm... A Searforge-based Ossram list you say??? I'll take a stab at it...

SEARFORGE - 35/35 -

General Ossram {+5}
~ Blaster - 3
~ Rockram - 3{8}
~ Ogrun Bokur - 3

Brun & Lug - 9
~ Ogrun Bokur - 3

Herne & Jon - 3
~ Ogrun Bokur - 3
max Forgeguard - 8

Man, that is a whole mess of Bokurs.... I like it!

His card does say character solo so it just might count.

Was there ever an official ruling on this? I've been holding off buying him awaiting an infernal.

[HeadHunter]

I would say that if it says "Character Solo" on the card/description, we don't need an official ruling to conclude that it is a solo. If it says "Rhulic" on that line as well, then it is a Rhulic Solo.
Likewise, Herne & Jonne count as a "unit" for this tier army.

[CrashOverride]

I would say that if it says "Character Solo" on the card/description, we don't need an official ruling to conclude that it is a solo. If it says "Rhulic" on that line as well, then it is a Rhulic Solo.
Likewise, Herne & Jonne count as a "unit" for this tier army.

I was more referring to the debate in another thread on whether Lug not having "Rhulic" in his description made it legal to take the pair. No one ever came to a final decision and it was awaiting someone making an official ruling, since it was such a vague issue. Pretty much, Brun=obviously allowed to the party, Lug= +1 on his coat tails hopefully.

[MagnustheJust]

I was more referring to the debate in another thread on whether Lug not having "Rhulic" in his description made it legal to take the pair. No one ever came to a final decision and it was awaiting someone making an official ruling, since it was such a vague issue. Pretty much, Brun=obviously allowed to the party, Lug= +1 on his coat tails hopefully.

The point cost for Lug is covered when you decide to put Brun in the army. And since you can not take one with teh other, yes, he is allowed.

It's just like taking Wring Eye & Snackjaw in a Four-Star list, or The Brothers Bacon - Rorsh & Brine, in a Four-Star or Highborne list...

Yes you can!!

[MagnustheJust]

Man, that is a whole mess of Bokurs.... I like it!

And I still have a 4th Bokur just hanging about too!!
Three of them are fully painted and based too...

[pattison]

42 points, that sounds interesting. Do you normally take a 50 point list and just remove a unit or heavy jack? I would like to hear more about this if you do not mind.

Well you can build 42 pointer lists in forwardkommander, just select it.
Actually I feel that it's more like a comfy 35'er rather than a 50'er on diet.
Makes list building easier than 35, allows you not to make those typical compromises known from 35 (can't afford important solo, can't take full unit etc.), but the "proportions" are typically closer to the ones at 35 as I see. It doesn't take as much time as 50, but it's still a well-rounded army that you can build.
Everyone, beginners and veterans alike enjoyed this game size in our community right from the start, and I can highly recommend it.

Note: When I organize 42pts tournaments and I include scenarios with Reinforcements then instead of bringing additional models I allow the players to separate up to 7 points of their army and use them as reinforcements in those missions. So those scenarios work like 35 point games with 7 point Reinforcements.

[CrashOverride]

The point cost for Lug is covered when you decide to put Brun in the army. And since you can not take one with teh other, yes, he is allowed.

It's just like taking Wring Eye & Snackjaw in a Four-Star list, or The Brothers Bacon - Rorsh & Brine, in a Four-Star or Highborne list...

Yes you can!!

That's the best explanation I've seen all week.

And I still have a 4th Bokur just hanging about too!!
Three of them are fully painted and based too...

Man, it's like me and my Khador heavy addiction... lol.

[HeadHunter]

Indeed - Lug is almost like a piece of Brun's equipment. They come together or not at all.