Pictures of new Iron Fang Kovnik solo and Greylord light cav

[Khador247]

Check out this video http://losthemisphere.com/blog/21781

The Greylord cav is at the 12:50 mark. Iron Fang Kovnik is at 13:40. Sounds like more Iron Fangs to come as well. The model is already at PP headquarters.

[HeadHunter]

Looks sweet - I'll check it out!

[Seventhprophet]

Im going to assume that what is going to be under that saddle is a bear. This is Khador, bears can count as "light cavalry".

Bears.

Greylords... On.... Bears.

[samytheth]

om sweet god. i love the greylord cav much better then ulans i can tell just by hearing it. also the kovnik is a great looking art and i cant wait. sense i do not own any real infentery yet i think im leaning tords IF because of this new kovnik

[Karl Eller]

I came a little Fast cavalry with magic shotguns and non-character iron fangs with axes? Don't mind if I do.

[PG_LunarSol]

Im going to assume that what is going to be under that saddle is a bear. This is Khador, bears can count as "light cavalry".

Bears.

Greylords... On.... Bears.

They say fast horses in the video

[OldOneEye]

If those Greylords have honest-to-god magic shotguns I'm taking credit as coiner of the term.

The IF Kovnik excites me because of this sequence:
1) IF Kovnik with axe
2) IF unit with axes
3) Good reason to finally make IF plastics as you now have two units based off that body

[Ganso]

That Iron Fang Kovnik has me drooling

Now, will I paint him in standard IFP colors or Black Dragon? hmmmmm

[PG_Draxos]

I think he is a character.

[Karl Eller]

I think he is a character.

He is a solo, but the devs also said something about axe-wielding Iron Fangs, which I think means a unit.

[vagabondaeon]

I'm personally still hoping for Iron Fangs with crossbows and exploding arrows.

[Khador247]

I like the idea of an Iron Fang ranged unit. We already have two flavors of Iron Fang melee infantry plus the Great Bears. Give us a good ranged unit that can still get the job done in melee like the Errants.

[PG_LunarSol]

How awesome would it be if we got a version of the pikemen without shields that had backswing instead?

[Karl Eller]

How awesome would it be if we got a version of the pikemen without shields that had backswing instead?

I could see them losing shield wall, crit KD and a POW (down to POW 12), gaining weapon master (or maybe something like Demo Corps having either WM or backswing as *Attacks), getting Relentless Charge on the base unit (instead of the UA) and MAAAAAYBE Defensive Line. Basically trading in some survivability for extra offensive punch.

[PG_LunarSol]

Yeah, drop down to 12 and lose Crit KD (details I'd assumed and forgotten). No way would they get weaponmaster though. That'd just be nuts. Irusk would still think they were the best thing ever invented, even just with POW 12 backswing.

[Thenmy]

That Iron Fang Kovnik looks like a boss!! I'm also really pleased with the concept of a faster hit-and-run cavalry unit for Khador. Could "a really fast horse" mean SPD:9?

[Joasht]

They say fast horses in the video

They are reserving Bears for MoW cavalry. They will justify it by saying they are running out of Destriers since all the Kovniks and Gun Carriages are using them, so they decided, with some pushing for "MORE KILLY" from the Empress, to go tame bears instead. Bears are not much slower than horses in real life IIRC, so I hope they'd still be SPD 7, with Combat Rider, two initial POW 14 melee attacks with crit KD, and one POW 15 attack with crit consume...

[Karl Eller]

Yeah, drop down to 12 and lose Crit KD (details I'd assumed and forgotten). No way would they get weaponmaster though. That'd just be nuts. Irusk would still think they were the best thing ever invented, even just with POW 12 backswing.

WM AND Backswing would be a little over the top, yes, but it'd be cool if they had something like the Demo Corps where they have two *Attacks, one granting Weapon Master and the other granting Backswing. But yeah, if I had to choose between only one or the other, backswing would probably win out. We've got plenty of damage buffs (Battle lust, Fury, pButcher's feat, S&P, HoF) that would turn them pretty horrifying.

[Joasht]

Yeah, drop down to 12 and lose Crit KD (details I'd assumed and forgotten). No way would they get weaponmaster though. That'd just be nuts. Irusk would still think they were the best thing ever invented, even just with POW 12 backswing.

If they ever came up with an axe-wielding IFP unit, I'd love to see them with Backswing and Defensive Line, probably still with MAT 6 though. Of course I'd love MAT 7, but i'm thinking that at MAT 6 then they could keep the costs lower....maybe.

That said, with regards to the Kovnik, I wonder if it would be basically a Great Bear solo, but with something else.....like.....Desperate Pace: IFP! I'd totally pay for that. eIrusk; Desperate Pace, IFP UA minifeat, Tactical Supremacy.
I assume that by the time your minifeat triggers your IFP's activation "has ended" so it won't be subject to Desperate Pace (which only works during the unit's activation), but heck, thats a 17" Shield Wall regardless!

Or maybe it would give them back their +2" while charging, like what they had in Mk.I. Still great

[Peri]

If they ever came up with an axe-wielding IFP unit, I'd love to see them with Backswing and Defensive Line, probably still with MAT 6 though. Of course I'd love MAT 7, but i'm thinking that at MAT 6 then they could keep the costs lower....maybe.

That said, with regards to the Kovnik, I wonder if it would be basically a Great Bear solo, but with something else.....like.....Desperate Pace: IFP! I'd totally pay for that. eIrusk; Desperate Pace, IFP UA minifeat, Tactical Supremacy.
I assume that by the time your minifeat triggers your IFP's activation "has ended" so it won't be subject to Desperate Pace (which only works during the unit's activation), but heck, thats a 17" Shield Wall regardless!

Or maybe it would give them back their +2" while charging, like what they had in Mk.I. Still great

The Kovnik could have Battleplan: Press Forward, Overcome, or (*)Desperate Pace

If they ever make an Iron Fang Axemen unit, I hope they're getting Defensive Line at the very least, but Unyielding could be cool too.
Instead of (*)Backswing, they could get Cleave and Overtake. Penetrating Strike would be good to keep in line of the anti-heavy theme the IFP have.
What I personally would like to see them get is Vengeance and Takedown.

Also, Iron Fang Crossbowmen with Dual Shot would be nice and thematic, and hey, let's toss in a light artillery Ballista with Iron Fang crew (though I don't know what they could do differently to the Field Gun. Maybe push the target D3" directly away.)

[Marth]

Iron Fang X-Men. What'd they be called? Bears of Gallowswood?

I don't hope for either Backswing or Weapon Master, Defensive Line at best - and maybe ranked attack. BS or WM would put them into Territory of the Great Bears and Demo Corps, making the DC lose out even more.

On another note, new IF unit plus IF Solo make our Theme Forces jubilee, and slightly more sensible in parts.

I am, however, really giddy at the thought about it, and Greylords on horses. Even though I was banking on Kossite Riders, this is great. I'm presuming SPD 8 (which is a fast horse by Khadoran standards) and Frostbite. Maybe Ice Cage, and then something different. A HoF'ed unit unter Vlad Xp2's feat would be outrageously fast.

(Now, if only the Koldun Lord bestowed Battle Wizard to all greylords...)

[RevolverAdamska]

They want to kill units spam and Khador get more units and utility for units ... Cool!

[Octavius_Maximus]

Yeah, they want to kill unit spam, not kill units completely. More units can be good, just make sure there is parity in power to non- high def units too.

[Karl Eller]

Iron Fang X-Men. What'd they be called? Bears of Gallowswood?

I don't hope for either Backswing or Weapon Master, Defensive Line at best - and maybe ranked attack. BS or WM would put them into Territory of the Great Bears and Demo Corps, making the DC lose out even more.

I think the idea is that the axe wielding Iron Fangs are trading out their defense for increased damage, hence Backswing and/or Weapon Master. Without it, they'd just be squishier, worse IFP. Also, without shield wall the IF Axemen just become DEF 13 ARM 14 models which die in droves if not protected, the Demo Corps still have the advantage of being much tougher.

I am, however, really giddy at the thought about it, and Greylords on horses. Even though I was banking on Kossite Riders, this is great. I'm presuming SPD 8 (which is a fast horse by Khadoran standards) and Frostbite. Maybe Ice Cage, and then something different. A HoF'ed unit unter Vlad Xp2's feat would be outrageously fast.

(Now, if only the Koldun Lord bestowed Battle Wizard to all greylords...)

I did rush to check the Koldun Lord's Battle Wizard ability to see if it was "Greylord Ternion" or just "Greylord units". I was sad. But still, if they're SPD 8 light cavalry with Magic 7 Frostbites, I will wet myself with joy.

[John of Arc]

The Kovnik looks amazing, and I'm super excited at the thought of a second Ironfang unit and more Greylords.

[OrsusSmash]

That Iron Fang Kovnik looks like a boss!! I'm also really pleased with the concept of a faster hit-and-run cavalry unit for Khador. Could "a really fast horse" mean SPD:9?

I'd bet that's more likely than not. Both of the Hordes Light Cavalry units are SPD: 9, and that plays a huge part in their utility. I'd hope that when it comes time to give Warmachine legit Light Cavalry (Soulhunters ended up picking it up in the Mk. 2 transition, but weren't originally so,) they chief up and give them SPD: 9 so they can run proper shenanigans.

Playing Legion, the Raptors are absolutely delightful, because they're flexible and less "one shot" than heavy cavalry typically is. I'm very excited for the prospect of the Greylord Outriders, for that reason.

The Kovnik could have Battleplan: Press Forward, Overcome, or (*)Desperate Pace

Dear god, I hope so!

The #1 Mk. 2 change that really hurt the IFP was losing the +2" of extra charge range they had in MK. 1. Granted, everyone got chopped down in the Mk. 2 transition, though we've already seen a lot of threat ranges jump right back up. If this new Kovnik could re-apply that delicious +2" of movement via something like Desperate Pace, and if it worked on any Iron Fang unit, that'd be a huge boost for them.

Overall, word of these new releases has me very, very excited. I can't wait to see what else is in store for the next round of releases!

[PG_ThatRickGuy]

There's another super important implication for Khador in the video...

Lilyth3 is on a huge base. She is setting the precedent for huge based casters.

and we have a certain caster that we know is going to come out with a new epic sculpt... I think I might have to retract my previous theories about a medium based Karchev and go with a HUGE based Karchev!

Oh, and Greylord Cav... with the new Vlad3... it's going to be an expensive year!

-Rick

[Octavius_Maximus]

Obviously the Huge based Caster is going to be Legendairy Butcher.

Thats how angry he is. Its a personal space thing.

[Octavius_Maximus]

Obviously the Huge based Caster is going to be Legendairy Butcher.

Thats how angry he is. Its a personal space thing.

[Peri]

Obviously the Huge based Caster is going to be Legendairy Butcher.

Thats how angry he is. Its a personal space thing.

I find this way funnier that it's got any right to be.

[HRM]

Obviously the Huge based Caster is going to be Legendairy Butcher.

Thats how angry he is. Its a personal space thing.

This made me LOL, literally.

[Jake the Dog]

For those unable to see the video:

[HeadHunter]

Obviously the Huge based Caster is going to be Legendairy Butcher.

Thats how angry he is. Its a personal space thing.

I had to laugh too, that's great!

[PG_Charwood]

I have to admit. I really thought Khador's light cavalry would be Kossites on horseback. But I will NEVER say no to more Greylords!

- Charwood

[Furious George]

Thinking to the mention of a new iron fang unit it will no doubt be plastic with options for both units. I want something like Examplar errants, a shooty/combat unit with some interest rules. Ideally two handed axe's and crossbows similar to Kossites

[profparm]

What if the axe-wielding IFP have two-handed Ice Axes with Crit: Freeze? You could have them lose CMA, Shield Wall, Blasting Pike, and then some change to stats as well (probably -1 to armor without shields, but possibly +1 to any or all of MAT, STR, and/or DEF, as balancing dictates). They're def is only 1 or 2 short of our other high-defense units anyway, they could be our new higher-def unit with a slightly better chance of surviving missed AOEs thanks to the still-higher armor, but without the ability to get much higher armor that the other IFP have.

[Ganso]

I don't think the Kovnik will affect Iron Fang units in general because that would mean the Great Bears would get a buff as well as they do count as an Iron Fang Unit.

I think that if the Kovnik buffs units he will specifically call out the unit's name. I don't think PP wants to give us a fourth honorary Great Bear

[Ganso]

double post

[Peri]

Crit freeze on a full unit would be pretty over the top. Also ARM 14 isn't that high, like you think. The main use of shield wall on IFP is to survive stray blasts.
I think the axemen should head in the direction of cygnar sword knights. They are cheap, but good for their cost.

[Peri]

I don't think the Kovnik will affect Iron Fang units in general because that would mean the Great Bears would get a buff as well as they do count as an Iron Fang Unit.

I think that if the Kovnik buffs units he will specifically call out the unit's name. I don't think PP wants to give us a fourth honorary Great Bear

I think thats exactly what we're gonna get. A FA:1 2-3pt solo with weapon master, and either back swing or swift strike. Or he'll go Yuri and get tresher.
As far as buffing fangs, it may specifically say non-char units.

Other possibilities can be:
- no sleeping on the job (satyxis raider cpt)
- inspiration[iron fang pikemen]
- veteran leader (warmonger war chief)

Also, I'd lov him to have some movement shenanigans himself, like dodge or overtake. Jack Hunter would also fit well here. He is a veteran Iron Fang afterall