Light Calvery ideas for Trollbloods

[Master_Mechanic]

With the Warmachine side getting a second calvery I was just trying to get some ideas for what we would like to see as a second calvery.
My idea was pygs riding mountain goats.
Haven't put to much thought into this just want to hear any thoughts on this.

[PG_petegrrrr]

Pygs seems the obvious choice...but the thing I may want more than anything one earth is...CABER CAVALRY!!!!

[Goris]

I honestly see a Kriel warrior variant cavalry like Petegrrrr is alluding to. Expect them on boars or even horses. Spd 7 with light cav rules...

[Kamahin]

A unit of pygs on chariots modeled after the war wagon, pulled by something, though I don't know what yet.

[PG_Celedor]

LOL, Caber Cavalry-awesome.

I vote Pygs on Pigs.

But my secret wish is... Full blooded trolls that adapted to plains or grassland habitats. The ability to prowl through terrain stalking their prey. Huge, powerful legs giving explosive bursts of speed and the ability to jump great distances. Naturally they would have less raw smashing power for their increased speed, agility, and hunting prowess.

[Jota]

I hope it wont be pygs, I would like those strong horses mentioned somewhere. Like more rugged Shire horse, with Saber/slug gun trollkin riders. More of a hit-and-run, behind the lines kind of thing. Jarl must ofc get a mount and go epic to tag along.

EDIT: I lke Celedors fullbloods as well.

[PG_cheddercaveman]

With the Warmachine side getting a second calvery I was just trying to get some ideas for what we would like to see as a second calvery.
My idea was pygs riding mountain goats.
Haven't put to much thought into this just want to hear any thoughts on this.

Sorry to say that I don't see this happening as Circle is the home of Goats for sure. Even more sure now given that there is art released with Morvahna on one. I can't see any way that Troll light-cav would be anything other than Pygs on something. It won't be horses though, not Troll-y enough. What they'd be riding still eludes me though, as I don't see it being just smaller Toughaloes.

[razcalking]

Pygs on Baby Tuffaloes.

[hmk17]

LOL, Caber Cavalry-awesome.

I vote Pygs on Pigs.

But my secret wish is... Full blooded trolls that adapted to plains or grassland habitats. The ability to prowl through terrain stalking their prey. Huge, powerful legs giving explosive bursts of speed and the ability to jump great distances. Naturally they would have less raw smashing power for their increased speed, agility, and hunting prowess.

I second Pygs on Pigs.

Though you make a good argument about Gazelle Trolls.

[omerplata]

Pygs on fullblood trolls? Like mini blitzers!

[darkInertia]

For gameplay, it would be great to get a mobile ranged unit, rather than another melee one. Light cav's end of activation movement is less effective if you can't ignore free strikes.

[HellecticMojo]

since khador are getting greylords, why not rune shaper cav?

magic is always good

[Ogrob]

Pygs on pigs for the fun factor, definitly.

Realisticaly, scouts on some kind of rugged horses sounds good to me.

[Jota]

since khador are getting greylords, why not rune shaper cav?

magic is always good

Then they must be surfing on stoneboards, that would be great!

I am about to make my second unit now and are thinking about mounting the one standing turned to his left on a stone-slab just lifting out of the ground.

[Lost Effect]

Can we just steal Khadors horses? We do like stealing and those horses carry booze I heard!

[hmk17]

Khador is getting Greylord light cav and Cygnar is getting ATGM light cav, so it does seem to be based off previous units.

[PG_Goldstep]

OK, I'm going to nip this right away.

We must all agree right now that we will not let ourselves get carried away if/when one or all of the following are revealed:

1 It isn't the most novel idea ever.
2 It doesn't have the most interesting rules in the game.
3 I won't cry if they have relatively poor stats.

We will think up great stuff that is more interesting than it is feasible. I love Pete's idea of caber cav and Celedor's fullblood gazelle-trolls. I cannot cry if we never see them.
I love the idea of getting a new runeshaper unit as cav like the khador people are getting, (and surfboads is a homerun) but I won't cry if they end up being a one spell wonder. (I'm half expecting the khador ones to be that way.)
If they end up Pygs on Pigs or something similar, I have to recognize that as of right now the largest MAT on a pygmy is 5 on the keg and the only way to claim that a pygmy has a RAT of 5 is the Pyg ace on the blitzer; the rest have a 4. I won't be shocked if the pyg cav are MAT 5 and RAT 4. I'll remember that a charge on a WarCried, ChargeOfTheTrolls pygmy using the same stats as a bushwacker would still be a MAT 10 P+S 10. So give him even a pow 10 and a mat 6 and he can hurt something, so I won't cry about low stats until I find that I can't afford to give it some basic support.



NOW... although I plan to keep my expectations low so I can be pleased with getting something realistic later, love the ideas I've hearing from all of you!

[hackdZ]

I vote for Pyg's riding War dogs.

I like the idea of Pyg's riding Pigs, but something about a little troll on the back of a war dog is just really appealing to me.

[Nicky666]

I vote for Burrows on giant moles

[PG_Celedor]

I vote for Burrows on giant moles

Wicked.

Sink Hole: Burrowers cavalry models may burrow their movement, moving under (through) models. Make an attack roll against all Models who's bases are passed under (through), models hit are knocked down and suffer a powerful 12 damage roll.

Goldstein, nice post.

Edit: Auto-correct drives me nuts sometimes. Goldstein = Goldstep...

[PG_Goldstep]

Goldstein = Goldstep...

Yes. Yes it does. Philip Goldstein is P Goldstein is Goldste, P.
Goldstep.
That's a really good autocorrect.


And thank you.

[razcalking]

OK, I'm going to nip this right away.

We must all agree right now that we will not let ourselves get carried away if/when one or all of the following are revealed:

1 It isn't the most novel idea ever.
2 It doesn't have the most interesting rules in the game.
3 I won't cry if they have relatively poor stats.

Wow, talk about lowered expectations. You've resigned yourself to being okay with boring and/or lackluster Trollblood releases. They've really ground you down! I'll only buy them if they either ARE very interesting or useful on the table.

[Autumn Stone]

I'd hate to start some sort of unfounded roumor or something, so I'll just mention that Doug Secat in an insider post posted this picture

right after a picture of a toughallo.

Yes it's a squirrel thrall, not a crazy troll armoured giant squirrel. I know they'd never consider giving us patherfinder light cav pygs on big armoured squirrels with a jump place effect, but I wish they would. It would be all sorts of fun.

cheers
A.S.

[Decarabian]

I want pygs on the IK equivalent of Chocobos. Like a tribal pyg on ostrich thing. That would be sweet.

[hooligantuesday]

I want pygs on the IK equivalent of Chocobos. Like a tribal pyg on ostrich thing. That would be sweet.

I love the rune shapers on flying rocks idea, that's just too awesome, give them Stone-spray and Magic 6/7 and i'm happy. A speed 7 unit of trolls on flying rocks that surf up, spray you in the face and then fly away would be awesome.

[Ozlo]

Pygs on pigs greate idea
But I think about 2 pygs riding moose [first as rider, second as a gunner]

[PG_Goldstep]

Wow, talk about lowered expectations. You've resigned yourself to being okay with boring and/or lackluster Trollblood releases. They've really ground you down! I'll only buy them if they either ARE very interesting or useful on the table.

I sometimes have a problem with internet tone deafness. People misunderstand an attempt at an even-keeled response as condescending or angry. I will say in this case, if the tone sounds annoyed with you, I am.

I went through it to a minor extent with Jarl. A lot of people agreed with me that he was not going to be RAT 8 and get ROF 2 on the guns. He's not Caine. So at there there people didn't call be negative or dumb.
But I was dumb for thinking the warwagon isn't symmetrical. Or that it wouldn't be RAT 6 and ARM 20.
I was negative for suggesting the mountain king would only have a STR 15. I never even got to arguing for a MAT 5 and an ARM 19.
And then the week after release instead of having any reasonable talk on the forums, something Trolls are actually good at until someone says "Skinner." we have to head about the King not having enough to keep people like you interested.

I worked hard during the playtest beta for Hordes. Maybe not Sevwall hard. Maybe no Dallas or Flanzer. And I was pleased and still love to play with the result. Even Doomy1 who is to this day my favorite.

And Flanzer comes down to the point. Doomy is the troll warlock that people often call "lackluster" and "boring" and complain about poor stats.

I will not be one of the people pointing out a MAT 5 and POW 10 and on a SPD 9 unit if we ever get something speedy, as an example.

[Saraminss]

+1
I agree completely

[Nicky666]

realistically if trolls were to get a light cavalry unit it's more than likely going to be a bushwhacker unit or maybe even pyg scouts. If we were to get pyg scouts I hope they have bows or something.

[razcalking]

...to keep people like you interested.

Look, I'm not some ADHD teenager who needs NOW NOW NOW, BEST BEST BEST to keep me interested, and nor are all of the people pointing out - quite calmly - the limitations of the Mountain King. They're simply informed consumers who want interesting and/or useful products.

*shrug* Sorry, Trollbloods have tons of interesting models with interesting rules that work well on the table. If these (or any other new release) aren't up to that standard, only a fool would buy them.

Meh, you know what, this is just a conjecture thread about a unit not even yet hinted at. I just don't get why you would pop in and proclaim that we shouldn't get too excited about them being interesting.

[hmk17]

My only thought is that a discussion of Light Cavalry shouldn't be focused on being melee. Light Cavalry was used for scouting, communication, raiding, & skirmishing. While they did have melee (mainly spears and swords), the main weapons they used were bows and later firearms. The Mongols and the Huns are prime examples of how powerful Light Cav was. What we know as the US Cavalry from the Wild West days was light cav (mainly a dragoon version of it, but still light cav)

Heavy Cavalry were the heavy armed and armored shock troops. Something I think PP conveyed very well in their units. And I think that they will do so again.

[Crate123]

I sometimes have a problem with internet tone deafness. People misunderstand an attempt at an even-keeled response as condescending or angry. I will say in this case, if the tone sounds annoyed with you, I am.

I went through it to a minor extent with Jarl. A lot of people agreed with me that he was not going to be RAT 8 and get ROF 2 on the guns. He's not Caine. So at there there people didn't call be negative or dumb.
But I was dumb for thinking the warwagon isn't symmetrical. Or that it wouldn't be RAT 6 and ARM 20.
I was negative for suggesting the mountain king would only have a STR 15. I never even got to arguing for a MAT 5 and an ARM 19.
And then the week after release instead of having any reasonable talk on the forums, something Trolls are actually good at until someone says "Skinner." we have to head about the King not having enough to keep people like you interested.

I worked hard during the playtest beta for Hordes. Maybe not Sevwall hard. Maybe no Dallas or Flanzer. And I was pleased and still love to play with the result. Even Doomy1 who is to this day my favorite.

And Flanzer comes down to the point. Doomy is the troll warlock that people often call "lackluster" and "boring" and complain about poor stats.

I will not be one of the people pointing out a MAT 5 and POW 10 and on a SPD 9 unit if we ever get something speedy, as an example.

Thats why Im here, to ***** and whine because Goldstep wont do it!

[theflyingdutchman59]

guy guys guys,

pyge highway wardens.



riding .... goats ( cuase no one has said goats)
hand cannons pow 12, range 12 ,( or blunderbusts pow 12/13 range 8)
and they all look like a cross between scouts and teh bounty hunting buddies.

maybe 6/8 unit. have path finder, speed 7 prowl.

[acsmedic]

We have Janissa and Calandra, what other troll females fight? I would think many others do.

Kriel Daughter's Trollblood Light Cavalry Unit.
SPD 8 STR 5 Mat 6 Rat 6 Def 12 Arm 15 CMD 9
Fell Cry Rng 10 ROF 1 AOE - P+S10 *Erosion 1 extra die against non-living targets. (calling it shatter would be better...but doesnt PP try to limit duplicate abilities with different names?)
Brutal Charge on P+S 9 Axes

Could have some kind of mount that is deaf or modeled with ear protection. what do ya think? Could be cool.

[Arden]

How bout a ranged light calvary??? Maybe mini powder kegs ala the Bomber? And my vote is for a unit of Scouts on some kind of charging horse

[nIKon]

Sorry, Trollbloods have tons of interesting models with interesting rules that work well on the table. If these (or any other new release) aren't up to that standard, only a fool would buy them

Couldn't disagree with this more.

J--

[PG_sweetooth]

now i've just skimmed alot of this and only saw one post saying anything about hevy cav so my wish is champs on mulg meal size toughalos and thats a big *** toughalo!

[Cleavelander]

want:

Bushwackers on goatback with CRA, who've traded bushwack for dualshot.

but more likely:

Runeshapers on unarmored tuffalos.

[wargrim]

There are many promising possibility's. Runeshapers on flying stones, goat riding bushwhackers, mole riding burrowers ore maybe something more heavy, akin to the 'light' heavy cavalry that the ferox are. Lets say trollkin Valkyries on a real heavy horse.

[PG_thegreatblah]

now i've just skimmed alot of this and only saw one post saying anything about hevy cav so my wish is champs on mulg meal size toughalos and thats a big *** toughalo!

Longriders are already heavy Cavalry.