Possible Future Menite

[Philoclass]

Hello Menitonians

I am looking to get into a second faction. I use to play cygnar, left the game and then got back in it with Retribution. I do pretty well with ret, but sometimes feel like they are getting stale. I think Menoth is the furtherist thing from ret of any faction.( low stats that need stacking buffs compared to very little buffs and synergy.) My biggest issue is I really enjoy painting, and well my current ret scheme is similar to the mai Menoth scheme. I used that light purplish red, and Bleach colors, and the third color is Turquoise. I dont feel like painting another army with that same red and bleach. So any advice on a really neat looking scheme?

Also from a play style point of view, I have a hard time visualizing how good this faction is because the need of the stacking buff to mak things great. Are there any glaring weaknesses of the faction (speed? maybe?), and are there any A+ or S class casters like EHaley, EGaspy?

[Vinsklortho]

I think speed seems to be the largest issue I find, but even that isn't bad with the right casters. Another weakness I would say is reliance on some squishy support models(Choir) and sometimes our casters feel squishier compared to others, but I'm overstating the first weakness and its pretty common to finish the game with a large portion of your choir still alive once you get comfortable with using them.

Here is a list of our casters (and casters from other factions) that have appeared on the Chain Attack podcast and have been rated by a group of players after practicing with them extensively http://www.chain-attack.com/casters/. They have all those games on the site and the lists they ran with those casters for those games. To sum it up I think almost everyone would say that pSevvy and Harbinger are definitely A casters while most people would likewise put eFeora, pKreoss, and eKreoss into that category as well. However those last 3 casters tend to be more controversial choices depending on who you ask (e.g. eKreoss has some very bad matchups, everyone and their brother has played against pKreoss, etc).

[Vinsklortho]

Also even though we do some buff stacking(thats the Trolls' deal), we're more of a denial and attrition faction. I think someone's signature said it best that when playing against Menoth write down all of the cool things that your army can do and then cross half of them off the list.

[Marzuki]

Menoth is a very rewarding faction if you can anticipate your opponent. It's the Menite way to weather the alpha strike and then slowly squeeze the life out of the opposing army. You have to be cognizant of everything going on in the battle and happily shut it down. That's not to say we don't have some serious offensive capabilities (Crusader's Call always makes my opponents' brow scrunch in frustration as my knights alpha strike and kill his unit that was over 10" away) but other armies do it better, notably Legion.

As far as our best casters, Harbinger is our most used in competition. 10 focus and 20" control area is stupid good and her feat is solid for controlling scenarios. eFeora, the various iterations of Kreoss, and pSevvy find their way into many lists. But the great thing about Menoth is someone will make an unorthodox list with Vindictus and absolutely clean house with it. We are an army that greatly rewards strategy and thinking around corners.

If you can I would recommend borrowing a Menite army and playing at least three games. The should give you a feel for denying your opponent and figuring out the synergies that exist within our faction. You might also check this thread out:
http://privateerpressforums.com/show...ctorate-cheese

[Matthaeus]

But the great thing about Menoth is someone will make an unorthodox list with Vindictus and absolutely clean house with it. We are an army that greatly rewards strategy and thinking around corners.

I myself am pondering about getting into the game, and those are very appealing points. Glad to hear it.
Now I just need to find gamers around my place and stop looking at Skorne long enough...

You might also check this thread out:

Uh ? I recall reading it, and frankly, after hearing conversations about Haley, Deneghra or Thrall Banes, it comes off as a tad... idealizing. If you meant "check it for some ideas of good combos", consider I didn't say anything.

[Marzuki]

If you meant "check it for some ideas of good combos", consider I didn't say anything.

Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Lots of good ideas for synergies within PoM listed out in that thread.

[computertrucker]

Thyra seems to be turning out to have some amazing potential as well.. And is insanely good vs hordes

[allenamenvergeben]

I would like to add that our faction has a steep learning curve due to a difficult order od activation aswell as generally squishy casters.