eIrusk with Madelyn Corbeau, thoughts?

[Darguth]

So, I was flipping through my Mercs book last night and started reading up on Madelyn Corbeau again. It seems like she's a decent advisor solo for eIrusk. The +1 CMD range helps out with both Martial Discipline and Total Obedience, particularly the latter. Additionally, with all of his movement shenanigans already Intrigue seems like a decent way to supplement an alpha-strike with whatever hard-hitting melee unit you have sitting behind your screening wall: Great Bears, Doomreavers, MOW Demo Corps, etc. Sure, you only get the move with 1 model in the unit, but that can be pretty helpful especially if you need a small move to get LOS or something or to get a better angle on your charge lane.

Anyone tried her out with him? I think it would be hard to fit her into 35pts without sacrificing something more vital, but maybe at 50.

[x3tsniper]

It seems like it would be nice, I have never seen her fielded with Khador though.

[Fons]

I have fielded her with both eIrusk and eButcher. She has always been pretty great with both. Fits in fine at 35

[Steamwitch]

i have never seen her with khador. But thats understandable with our dog and wish elf. But im not too big an advocate of "x is better" responses. I think i would use her on widowmakers or a solo that moved a bit too far. I dont have her tho because i think i would only ever use her for irusk.

[Havock]

She adds more movement tricks to our solid infantry under a caster that supports them well. It will work.

[Darguth]

I guess my primary concern is that she doesn't do *that* much for 2pts. You get a little bigger aura and occasional 3" move for 1 guy. For those same 2pts I could get Wyshnalyrr (sp?), a handy solo like a Marksman, or a unit attachment. That's particularly why I'd be dubious using her in anything less than 50pts. Or am I missing something else she brings to the table consistently?

[Havock]

Take her with a Drakhun. Between countercharge and her 'enemy within CMD' rule it will give you very nice vectors.

[medward]

The downside with running her with eIrusk is that the two abilities you want to use indirectly conflict with each other. The +1 CMD requires her to be in B2B with eIrusk, but to get the 3" move, there has to be an enemy warrior within 9" of Madelyn. Ideally, you don't want eIrusk being too close to the front line, so you won't always get to use the 3" move, at least not until the enemy is in melee with your front or even second line.

It could still work, but I think the best use for Madelyn is on assassin casters or Strakhov. Assassin casters love the extra move - somebody like pVlad or pSorscha would love the extra inches to get into melee with the enemy caster, and Strakhov needs all the extra movement he can get to maximize the use of his feat (since the enemy models you're charging has to be in his control area to get the extra distance).

[Darguth]

The downside with running her with eIrusk is that the two abilities you want to use indirectly conflict with each other. The +1 CMD requires her to be in B2B with eIrusk, but to get the 3" move, there has to be an enemy warrior within 9" of Madelyn. Ideally, you don't want eIrusk being too close to the front line, so you won't always get to use the 3" move, at least not until the enemy is in melee with your front or even second line.

Yeah, I feel like I'd be running her primarily for the +1 CMD range...but in the end I just don't know if that's worth 2pts. Even with eIrusk's amazing CMD-based auras.

[scout's honor]

i have never seen her with khador. But thats understandable with our dog and wish elf.

She's a solo, not a caster attachment, so I don't really follow other than that with either of the above in the list already the points in caster support get quite significant.

The difference between 35 and 50 points with eIrusk isn't so much that it's easier to fit her in at 50, it's as much or more so that with the higher model count on the board she makes a big difference for Total Obedience and, to a lesser degree, Martial Discipline being able to affect a significant part of the list. I'd say she's well worth it at 50, regardless of Intrigue working at cross-purposes with Advisor to an extent. Intrigue is just an occasional bonus for me.

[Steamwitch]

oh well i thought she was a caster attachment in that case i may take her for a few test drives. But she seemes like a arcnode caster would like her company more. But outside of irusk i still dunno butcher mabey just for some extra move but still.

[Darguth]

The difference between 35 and 50 points with eIrusk isn't so much that it's easier to fit her in at 50, it's as much or more so that with the higher model count on the board she makes a big difference for Total Obedience and, to a lesser degree, Martial Discipline being able to affect a significant part of the list. I'd say she's well worth it at 50, regardless of Intrigue working at cross-purposes with Advisor to an extent. Intrigue is just an occasional bonus for me.

Yeah I was taking that into consideration as well. At 50pts you just have so many more models on the board that you want to try to cover with Total Obedience that the +1 CMD becomes really helpful.

[Digilante]

Another bonus to her with Irusk is that his units will now need to roll 12 (twice if they have a standard) to fail a command check. Makes having doomies around less risky.

[PG_ChainGun]

I bought her for playing with eIrusk. That extra "1 for command could prove awesome.

[Darguth]

Another bonus to her with Irusk is that his units will now need to roll 12 (twice if they have a standard) to fail a command check. Makes having doomies around less risky.

True, but that's only an increase of about 5.5% (91.7% success rate at CMD 10, 97.2% at CMD 11). While the +1" of radius on the CMD-based auras increases your area coverage by ~21% from around 314 square inches to 380, so I still think that's likely the best contribution still. But it does raise the possibility of using Doomreavers as your "delivery" unit behind a screening unit as being less risky.