Lord Arcanist Ossyan @ 35 pts

[SoulSummoner]

Howdy,

I'm looking into a starting list with Retribution (Mostly for the models ascetics but i'm still hoping to accomplish some effective usablility). I'm also working on the principle of "Keep It Simple"

I'm looking at a Starting Lineup of:

Ossyan +6
Hypno -9
Banshee -10
Sylys -2

Min Invictors -6
Invictors UA -2

Now for 10 pts im torn between the Arcantrik Force Generator or 2 units of Stormfall Archers.

AFG on feat. turn can:
- focus on War-Jack/Beast heavy armies with rapid fire.
- Anti Infantry spam with a blasted earth
And in general the additional slam / knockdown effect can be another nuisance to accompany the Banshee.

Stormfall archers probably for similar reasons as as the AFG:
- Feat turn brutal damage on Jacks/beasts
- Feat turn aoe spams
And in general they fullfil the roles of mobile platforms with snipe from each flank against infantry spams

And then theres 2 points to flavour the support roles.

The banshee and Hypno Warjacks are in for the obvious reasons of disturbance.
And the invictors fill a will be the frontline alpha ranges strike and the jack will be in for the counter charge, this assuming i can mulch infantry and just have to face damages war jacks/beasts at this point.

Any advice on this configuration?

[MMMMK]

Well, min. Invictors as your only unit will be hard to work around at 35 points. I'd favour 2x Stormfalls over the AFG for that reason alone, but I think that the Stormfalls will also add some versatility that the AFG does not. And they are better at killing infantry than the AFG, so much so that your AFG list might have a hard time dealing with even moderately infantry heavy armies (and what about high defense deathstars?).

[Murkhadh]

invictors want to cra, cra isn't as cool with a min unit, id bring full vics or no vics.

[Lord Sessadore]

invictors want to cra, cra isn't as cool with a min unit, id bring full vics or no vics.

Building on this: max invictors, stormfalls, and arcanist would fill out your 10 points nicely, I think.

If you don't want max invictors, I would also go for double stormfalls for the reasons MMMMK mentioned. Without them you'd have a rather low volume of attacks to fight infantry armies with.

[Gremlingsp]

MHSF is also very mean with Ossy. I run full invictors and full MHSF in my 35pt list.

[MMMMK]

The only problem with loading up Ossyan for his feat turn is that you'll run into lists that essentially ignore your feat turn, either because of shadow pack, shooting immunity, or just because they are infantry heavy and don't need the extra feat damage to remove. That's partly why I like the SFA in theory because their blasts are still very useful on the feat turn for hitting low arm warlocks/casters who are stealthed or just blasting the crap out of heavy or high arm infantry... so they are much more useful to Ossyan against lists which don't match up well.

[joelker41]

The only problem with loading up Ossyan for his feat turn is that you'll run into lists that essentially ignore your feat turn, either because of shadow pack, shooting immunity, or just because they are infantry heavy and don't need the extra feat damage to remove. That's partly why I like the SFA in theory because their blasts are still very useful on the feat turn for hitting low arm warlocks/casters who are stealthed or just blasting the crap out of heavy or high arm infantry... so they are much more useful to Ossyan against lists which don't match up well.

This.


I ALWAYS run Full Halbs+UA with Ossyan. Cheap hard hitting infantry that has a 15 defense vs everything with Quicken and a 13" threat on a charge is money.

I would personally think over the Invictors carefully. I firmly believe they are a 50 point inclusion instead of 35. MHSF are more mobile, can shoot farther over the course of a game, and the built in pathfinder is sweet.

I'm also not a fan of more than Hypnos on him at 35 and less. Pretty much always giving 2 focus, upkeeping 3 or more spells a turn, and pot shots with his gun = usually no focus for a second myrmidon.