What will Khador never get?

[Seventhprophet]

For fun, in general, what will we never get in faction?

Why?

[PG_Killdrath]

Arc Node.
I honestly think that having one would be VERY hard to keep in game balance. A lot of our stuff is balanced around never having one.

[ToAzT]

Yeah, I can agree with the Arc Node. I can also see never getting light jacks, as we have man-o-wars taking care of that position.

[ManIntheMachine]

Probably an ARM based upkeep. We have Hark's feat, but that aint a spell.

[Steamwitch]

Base speed beyond 4. Konquest is like 30ft tall and his gait dosent make him speed 5? oh well. But yea arcnodes and ARM buffs. We cant haz.ARM buffs would be nice seeing as its shoved in our face we have the highest arm. Yet we get out classed by an opponent with a buff. Im not mad i just find it really funny.

[rivenwyrm]

Another Iron Flesh caster. I would be massively surprised if it shows up in any of our new caster spell lists.

[Trihnicus]

Doom Reaver Light Cavalry.

[mozart]

I'll echo the sentiment that we will never get Lights.

[thrasymacus]

Which caster would you want an Arc Node with? Zerkova obviously. But even she has a 3rd class debuff (if Crippling Grasp is 1st rate and Quake is 2nd let's say) and two mediocre offensive spells. Maybe they don't build arc nodes because our Casters can't be bothered to learn good spells to Arc. I'm not against having one, I just don't really want one. I wouldn't mind the ability though, as in Spell Martyrs. It would be like giving Snipe to Cryx; Sure, it might come in handy, but overall why bother?

I'm more than ready for Khador lights or even minor Jacks, like Shredders, but only if the idea was creative and jived with our faction. I don't think the Grind light Khador jack really did anything creative. If they looked like that then I would be against them. There's nothing wrong with the model, but if we were to get one now it would have to blow the roof off in terms of originality. Kind of like that Octopus warbeast; not the greatest model, but very original conceptually. I sometimes doodle a Khador light jack I call 'the Thug.' My idea for it is in line with one of those smaller dogs that thinks and acts like it's a big dog, when it totally isn't. I also think the press ganged labour jack has a lot of potential, as in a robust agricultural (or whatever) labour jack being used for military purposes. It would be fun to break the mold and at least toy around with the idea. Also, our next Warcaster should be driving a tractor!

[Col_Festus]

Which caster would you want an Arc Node with? Zerkova obviously. But even she has a 3rd class debuff (if Crippling Grasp is 1st rate and Quake is 2nd let's say) and two mediocre offensive spells. Maybe they don't build arc nodes because our Casters can't be bothered to learn good spells to Arc. I'm not against having one, I just don't really want one. I wouldn't mind the ability though, as in Spell Martyrs. It would be like giving Snipe to Cryx; Sure, it might come in handy, but overall why bother?

Both our Sorcha's would love an arc node. Both Irusk's as well. Being able to buff from the node is what Khador would love. We would be able to keep our Casters further back and much safer.

[Tyr852]

Can I add the bad line of a MoW UA ? . I doubt we will ever get a arm buff as well to hard to crack the clamshells , Behemoth is already kinda monsterous and Conquest would lulz. If it was troop only MoW's would just be silly with shield wall or IFP.

[Seventhprophet]

Can I add the bad line of a MoW UA ? . I doubt we will ever get a arm buff as well to hard to crack the clamshells , Behemoth is already kinda monsterous and Conquest would lulz. If it was troop only MoW's would just be silly with shield wall or IFP.

I think if we got an arm buff conquest would become only slightly not worth buying, lol. (slightly joking, don't flame me, lol)

[OrsusSmash]

I think if we got an arm buff conquest would become only slightly not worth buying, lol. (slightly joking, don't flame me, lol)

Rargh! Flame!

Serious answer: Hunter's Mark on a solo, somewhere. If we ever get access to that, it'll crack our army wide open.

[x3tsniper]

I could personally live with an armor buff that just worked on infantry/warrior model.

[Seventhprophet]

Whats hunters mark do?

[OrsusSmash]

Whats hunters mark do?

Hunter's mark is a RNG 10 magic attack. If it hits, no damage, but friendly models charging the affected model gain +2" MOV, and warjacks can charge that model without spending focus.

I don't know that it would break the faction, but we'd absolutely break one model a turn.

[Seventhprophet]

Sounds pretty spot on for a Khador spell. Why don't we have that?

[x3tsniper]

Whats hunters mark do?

A offensive magic attack.
I believe it gives free charges and slams against the target, and you gain +2" movement against the target.

That is what I get for going to respond and then getting caught up watching netflix.

[OrsusSmash]

Sounds pretty spot on for a Khador spell. Why don't we have that?

Because Cygnar has it (kinda sorta - it's on a Minion solo they have access to.)

A offensive magic attack.
I believe it gives free charges and slams against the target, and you gain +2" movement against the target.

That is what I get for going to respond and then getting caught up watching netflix.

Ha, I was worried I'd be cut off because I was watching YouTube in another tab.

[profparm]

Bear-riding wizards....

Also, beard-wielding colossals....

[OldOneEye]

We'll never get a Demolisher kit, apparently...

[ToAzT]

We'll never get a Demolisher kit, apparently...

Don't say such things.

[Swaltz101]

I just want my widowmaker caster /sadface

[Aggroculture]

Will bever get snipe. the cygnar spell that adds 4 to range.

[OldOneEye]

We'll never get a story victory over Cryx.

[MollyHatchet]

We'll never get a story victory over Cryx.

I think that would be all factions.

[HeroZero]

Arc Nodes. Light war jacks outside mercenary tiers. Snipe, arm buff, MoW UA. Additional Winter guard Models for the WGDS. but most of all we will never ever see....
Another Infantry Buffing caster.

[Smiles]

Light jacks, arch nodes, and a straight + to hit spell. Friendly Faction model/unit gains +X to hit.
Never before and never again will Khador get a + to hit spell.

[John of Arc]

Yeah, I can agree with the Arc Node. I can also see never getting light jacks, as we have man-o-wars taking care of that position.

They really don't, though. Light warjacks are ranged support or some other form of utility. Our Man o War have none of that, and hit like a truck in melee. We have no light jack equivalents, but I don't think we need one all that badly.

[Tico Love]

I also believe that we will never get an Arc Node, but I am still holding on to hope that Lady Z is going to get a Character Vanguard. I also agree on the lack of a good ARM buff.

The other thing that I think PP considers to be characteristic of Khador is the lack of a Range Specialized Warjack. Even our best ranged 'jacks are meant to be Combined Arms 'jacks and they usually end up being better at melee.

[Digilante]

I'd really like a 'jack that is a ranged weapon platform (and can actually hit things). Sadly i doubt we'll ever get a ranged-focused warjack.

[ToAzT]

They really don't, though. Light warjacks are ranged support or some other form of utility. Our Man o War have none of that, and hit like a truck in melee. We have no light jack equivalents, but I don't think we need one all that badly.

I suppose that's true. I just meant that for equal or so points value, you get a mildly armored guy(or guys) that can stand in front and take a hit or two. And the bombardiers are ranged at least. :P

[Septimus]

A strakhov covert ops tier list where he can take Trenchers, like in Wrath.

But a man can dream...

[PG_Draxos]

Artilerist

Snipe

Arm Buffs

Arc Nodes

Offensive spells of note.

[scout's honor]

Never before and never again will Khador get a + to hit spell.

Signs & Portents is what now? Chopped liver? Fortune also increase accuracy, though technically it's not "+X" to hit.

Scrappy is both an arc node and a light jack. Clearly we can get this in faction, just only in a very restricted fashion. Also see Zerkova's theme force for lights.

I can see us getting an ARM buff even. We've been coasting on DEF for a while, but the effectiveness of that is getting reduced and ARM buffs would be appropriate for Khador. In my opinion bringing even our ARM 25 jacks up to 27 or so or giving a Konquest a bit more ARM wouldn't be broken, assuming it's on a single model base rather than battlegroup or something similar. They can still get scrapped. It's just a matter of the anti-DEF evolution running its course.

Snipe, indeed, that seems like it's something we'll never get. Anything else mentioned here so far: I wouldn't put money on it.

[Revengineer]

An actual widowmaker UA
Epic Old Witch

[Kræhe]

An Assault Kommando Unit Attachment.

[Steamwitch]

oh what a bout failsafe? I would love that sooo much!

[Havock]

An Assault Kommando Unit Attachment.

More specifically: an AK unit attachment that will throw them into the realm of mainstream useage.

[KhaosSpectyr]

but most of all we will never ever see....
Another Infantry Buffing caster.

actually it seems like thats what they keep giving us. Id love a jack caster that can do more than be awesome on Feat-turn