Sure the person could use the stuff they already had to make a subpar list but what then have I solved? I'll still have to fork out more money for the squad, uas, solos, and extras. Yes I have extra mcthralls, banes etc since solos can make more. That's the burden you bear when you pick a faction. You don't pick something then get upset. My main gripe with this thread isn't thornfall/gator deficiencies its with the players complaining about things that were well known facts about the faction before going in and disregarding people's opinions for not playing minions since it's not what they want to hear.