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    Default Which helljack & reinforcements to add to this 50pt eDenny list?

    I have been thinking about a few lists for an upcomming tourney. Steamroller, 1 list only, 50pts.
    After posting a few ideas here before, after long consideration I decided to play the following list. There are three choices left which drive me mad

    eDenny
    2 Deathrippers, as denny needs nodes
    Skarlock, ghostwalking the banes
    Banethralls, max + ua,
    Tartarus, banes need their boss
    WSC, upkeep removal mainly but will do so much more
    2 Sirens, just too good not to take
    Gorman, too good not to take and I know for a fact that one guy has been to L&L and picked up a conquest

    That is 30 points which are set in stone for me, leaving me with 20.


    For sure is that I want a second unit (not really counting the WSC here). I am considering 2 options here
    A) Bloodwitches, max + ua due to the fact that hordesplayers will outnumber warmachine by 14-10. (14-9 actually as I will be one of the 10)
    B) Bilethralls max as I am feeling weak on the ranged departments and they can spray decently during the feat turn, especially with marked for death up
    C) Another suggestion

    Then I still have 12 points. And in those 12 I do want a helljack, but I can't pick between:
    A) Deathjack. Raw power, focus efficient and a possible second hellsmouth in a turn
    B) Nightmare + Madeline Corbeau. Less focus efficient, but certainly more speed, and possible better surviving due to stealth. + MC is great with Tartarus, Denny's feat delivery and biles
    C) Another suggestion?

    Then there is the issue of reinforcements. They will happen in 1 of 4 published scenarios (a flag too far) so I am thinking for speed. My first suggestion would be soulhunters. But I have also been considering a more ranged attack approach with
    A) Darragh Wrath + Soulhunters min
    B) Darragh Wrath + 2 pistolwraiths
    C) Another suggestion?


    Any advise would be very welcome.
    Last edited by SjoerdH; 06-09-2012 at 01:00 AM.

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    First question: probably the Bloodwitches if there are lots of Hordes players as those girls are fast and mean, more bodies on the table is also good. Not a huge fan of the Biles, even with eDenni's debuffs they're still only much use for their Purge attack. Personally not a big fan of taking a unit that'll only be much use for one turn (ie when you pop eDennl's Feat) but that's just me.
    Second question: would consider a Seether instaed of DJ, leaves you with three extra pts and is nearly as good. Then again Nightmare is pretty good with Denni due to its Affinity rules.
    Question three: DW works well with Soul Hunters but i don't have much experience with them. Another Arc_Node can be pretty useful as a reinforcement to either replace losses or open up a new avenue of attack.
    Hope that's some use.

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    Depends on reinforcements options as to whether you want to focus on assassination, put pressure on or go for support for scenario victories. I think the balance option of Darraghe and two pistol wraiths can probably be a pretty decent balance, giving you the potential to lock down some threats on that side of the board and put some pressure on. Whereas Darraghe and Soulhunters could really slow down an opponents side running them into a mass of models that should hold them up. Those two options sound appealing to me that you had chosen.

    Another approach enjoyed when used once with her is using reinforcements with a Stalker. I don't expect the caster/warlock to be in range when it comes on the board, but if you put that model in on the turn that you will be feating, I have found that a nice run in the back lines can usually prep me for the following turn to charge them when they can't do anything about blocking the lane and the stalkers defense (stealth) can keep him safe from most since all the opposing army can do is turn to watch the inevitable that is bound to happen. One stalker MIGHT not kill the target with full focus on itself the following turn, but it always puts some serious hurt on. And then the other six points could be spent similarly like 2 pistol wraiths.

    But it's a bit of a choice based on what you find more appealing.
    Last edited by Bronze; 06-09-2012 at 05:08 AM.
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    If your feeling light in the ranged dept I wouldnt take the biles, they are there for purge and not much else and you already have the sirens for venoms if need be. I would suggest taking a unit of nyss hunters for your second unit and a seether or harrower, I like DW and the two pistol wraiths for reinforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SjoerdH View Post
    I have been thinking about a few lists for an upcomming tourney. Steamroller, 1 list only, 50pts.
    After posting a few ideas here before, after long consideration I decided to play the following list. There are three choices left which drive me mad

    eDenny
    2 Deathrippers, as denny needs nodes
    Skarlock, ghostwalking the banes
    Banethralls, max + ua,
    Tartarus, banes need their boss
    WSC, upkeep removal mainly but will do so much more
    2 Sirens, just too good not to take
    Gorman, too good not to take and I know for a fact that one guy has been to L&L and picked up a conquest

    That is 30 points which are set in stone for me, leaving me with 20.


    For sure is that I want a second unit (not really counting the WSC here). I am considering 2 options here
    A) Bloodwitches, max + ua due to the fact that hordesplayers will outnumber warmachine by 14-10. (14-9 actually as I will be one of the 10)
    B) Bilethralls max as I am feeling weak on the ranged departments and they can spray decently during the feat turn, especially with marked for death up
    C) Another suggestion

    Then I still have 12 points. And in those 12 I do want a helljack, but I can't pick between:
    A) Deathjack. Raw power, focus efficient and a possible second hellsmouth in a turn
    B) Nightmare + Madeline Corbeau. Less focus efficient, but certainly more speed, and possible better surviving due to stealth. + MC is great with Tartarus, Denny's feat delivery and biles
    C) Another suggestion?

    Then there is the issue of reinforcements. They will happen in 1 of 4 published scenarios (a flag too far) so I am thinking for speed. My first suggestion would be soulhunters. But I have also been considering a more ranged attack approach with
    A) Darragh Wrath + Soulhunters min
    B) Darragh Wrath + 2 pistolwraiths
    C) Another suggestion?


    Any advise would be very welcome.
    Unless your LGS has modified the rules, the Konquest will not be playable until it's available to the public. In my test games, Gorman hurts .... In a test game my opponent got a max deviation Black Oil on my Kraken, made me a sad panda.

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