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    Default Krueger3 speculation

    Hello all circle fans, what do you think abuot our third version of primal warlock? Do you know anything? What it will be? Maybe circle warlock unit huh? I still dreaming about 50mm base model with naked torso and angel-type wings, but i know it never happend. I wish to see Krueger as bad *** killing infantry and everything else well. Peace!

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    Current consensus is that we aren't getting a 3rd incarnation at all next book.

    Morvahna 2 instead as a cavalry caster.

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    I wouldn't be surprised to have either Krueger with an elite unit (like Grim / Makeda) with a couple Druids or Blackclads or to have Krueger having some sort of new Devourer aspect with him. PP seems to be pushing the Devourer aspect in Circle lately (eBaldur, Cassius, Grayle) and I think they'll follow that thread. Last time we saw Krueger, he was kicking Feora's butt with a totally epic rainstorm in the desert.

    His cohort, Kromac, was in Domination playing the butt of the Troll's jokes. So it doesn't seem that he's really doing anything concerted at the moment.

    I think it's much more likely that we'll see Kaya3 before Krueger3.
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    But what's wrong with saying "This model is circumstantially good and it's up to me as a good player to exploit its strengths and minimize its weaknesses"?

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    I'm holding out for Blighted Krueger, myself.

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    Or he pulls a Nemo, and tags a protoge along with him to see his work out 'just in case'
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    Or a battle engine warlock or kaya with 3 spirit wolf (fangs).

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    I wish to see Krueger3 more than Kaya3. With addinational druids he could be cool. For me better option will be character blackclad unit. Just becouse i like him much more and i don't know how Kaya3 could look, and what she could do. She's quite boring.
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    i think we should get Krueger3 just becouse other factions get their versions Morvahna on goat are cool, but for me she would be better on wolf.

    And off topic i wish to see heavy tharn cavalry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzyn View Post
    i think we should get Krueger3 just becouse other factions get their versions
    Just because you want it doesn't mean we're getting it. PP has said that all of the new locks have been seen, and we've only seen Morvahna2. I was also looking forward to seeing a 3, but it was not to be quite yet.

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    >>PP has said that all of the new locks have been seen,
    citation needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevelyn View Post
    >>PP has said that all of the new locks have been seen,
    citation needed
    Definitely. Not sure where you heard that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zor View Post
    Definitely. Not sure where you heard that...
    Will Schick said it in an interview video.

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    yea... where...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevelyn View Post
    yea... where...
    http://museonminis.com/lock-and-load...ick-interview/

    First question of the part 2 video.

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    wow, thats incredibly lame. This is the first time they've not done a symmetrical release of different warlock experience levels. So trolls and circle are the only two of the main eight factions who aren't getting 3rd "level" casters...

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    Is there a chance that additional warlocks were in other artwork though? I mean I know there was the big promo banner for eMorvahna, but have we seen any splash pages or anything that other 'locks could be lurking in?

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    I'm excited for Morvahna2. I love the goats, so I think she's more appealing to me than either Krueger or Kaya 3 would have been. And trolls are getting the hands down coolest thing to hit the game in a long time in Grim2. As long as each faction is getting a new "legendairy" style caster, I don't think it matters if it has a "2" or a "3" at the end of it's name.
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    We will get someone to be the third incarnation soon enough. Personally I'm more excited for Morvahna than I would have been for any of our other third options.

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    I hope Kaya3 will be a warlock unit with a bunch of Laris' grown puppies. That would be amazing.

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    Its possible that we misunderstood and there are 2 warlocks per faction but really does it matter?
    All 4 Hordes factions are getting a new version of an old warlock, in fact more simply we're getting a new warlock, does the name matter.

    If they released our warlock with identical rules but called Krueger 3 and riding a cloud or something... are we any better off?
    No, titles are irrelevant, lets all just hope for a decent warlock with a top miniature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZ View Post
    I hope Kaya3 will be a warlock unit with a bunch of Laris' grown puppies. That would be amazing.
    I hope Kaya3 will be a warlock unit with a bunch of Laris' baby puppies! A whole litter of wolf cubs! I would never play anything else.
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    In one of the interviews I watched over the L&L weekend, I heard them mention that Gargantuans would be a 'catch-up' book for Hordes, bringing the total for warcasters in each faction to 12, which although it isn't still the 14 that Warmachine has, they're fine with that. So that would mean:
    Krueger, eKrueger, Kaya, eKaya, Baldur, eBaldur, Kromac, Morvahna, Morvahna2, Cassius, Grayle, Mohsar = 12 and that's all we're getting so far.

    Since Circle is getting a mounted caster, Trollbloods and Skorne are seeing units and Legion is getting a battle engine, I wonder if in the next release we won't see Circle and Legion getting units while Skorne and Trolls get a mounted (Madrak on Tuffalo?) and Battle Engine (Rasheth on Titan palanquin?*) warlocks.
    That would fit with Krueger3 coming with blackclads.



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    Actually, I think I could see a Krueger3 being a battle engine caster where he's literally riding on a storm, or some sort of crazy lightning thing. I'm perfectly ok in the mean time though if Morvahna is our next epic and is cavalry. Honestly, I don't know that I'm personally so concerned with getting more epics anyway, rather than getting some new warlocks with new flavor.

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    Yeah, not sure why people are hung up on 3rd level casters vs a new 2nd level caster. There's really no real distiction in terms of power, and in that regard I would much rather have variety than to get stuck on multiple versions of the same casters. Give me Mounted EMorvahna over E3 Krueger any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevelyn View Post
    wow, thats incredibly awesome. This is the first time they've not done a symmetrical release
    Fixed that for you

    I'm personally excited that they are mixing it up a bit. Started with not giving everyone three man character units and now they're getting more creative with the casters. I hope this means that later we won't see things like "Oh, no, all of the factions actually had this totally awesome thing this whole time...". *shrug* Guess that's just me though.

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    Why are we so obsessed with a mounted caster? Mount = large base = easier to kill. Don't get me wrong, the art is glorious, and Morvahna is awesome. I'm amped she's epic. However, given the choice between a 3rd epic Krueger with a small base or, better yet, interesting unit (still hoping for our character unit) and an epic Morvahna on a large base with her typically awful defensive stats, I'd take Krueger3.

    I'm also sad that Kromac will likely not go epic any time soon. I think that his epic form holds the most intrigue in the sense that there are a myriad of directions PP could take him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asdrubael View Post
    Why are we so obsessed with a mounted caster? Mount = large base = easier to kill. Don't get me wrong, the art is glorious, and Morvahna is awesome. I'm amped she's epic. However, given the choice between a 3rd epic Krueger with a small base or, better yet, interesting unit (still hoping for our character unit) and an epic Morvahna on a large base with her typically awful defensive stats, I'd take Krueger3.

    I'm also sad that Kromac will likely not go epic any time soon. I think that his epic form holds the most intrigue in the sense that there are a myriad of directions PP could take him.
    If she keeps sac pawn (which is kinda her thing) large or small base really wont matter.....


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    i wonder if she is riding the goat bc of side effects of the ritual she did with Baldur in Domination? she has been weakened by the ritual and now needs to be carried around. would be kinda ironic since she is the healing specialist of the druids and cant heal herself ^_^
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