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    I was just thinking of something fairly unconventional. At 4 pts. the swamp troll is a fairly decent lil beastie. But, usually I am only fitting him in though, when I have 4 pts to spare and need another transfer target or fury battery. So, what if I turned it on its head and made a force of swamp trolls. The passive abilities are nice and with the right warlock, some synergy can be applied. With obvious problems against high Armor stuff, it would not be list for every occasion. But, I am seriously thinking of investing in a half dozen of them.

    How about GunnBjorn, for instance? He and Janissa could throw down a couple of walls, taking advantage of camouflage. And naturally, guided fire would have a lot of triggers.

    This idea feels insane, but might do it anyway. Open to suggestions of amplifying the general idea with other models.

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    field allowance.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkle View Post
    field allowance.......
    Isn't the FA of Swamp Trolls, like any non Character Beast, unlimited?

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    If you fight anything other than smallbased models you will lose.
    Anything with decent armor that isnt possible to consume will be so hard to kill.

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    Even if he fights only smallbased models, that's going to be rough. Paying 24 points to kill 6 models at 8" isn't that much destruction and your probably in combat next turn.
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    Well add an KSB+E, two walls, and Rök. Not superefficient but probably fun to play (against living modells). My main objection would be that outside this fun list i'd never use more than one swampy. Even one swamp troll is a rarity in my lists. Mulitple Axers would be possible, but then the 'cheap' aspect isn't there anymore.

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    You would get utterly decimated by any army that brought heavy jacks/beasts.

    The same for stealth armies (like cryx).

    A swamp is a nice compliment to a well rounded list, but a swamp troll list has wayyyyyyy too many problems to really function well.


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    Only if the Axer was 4 points! You could do it then. Also Axer spam with pMaddy would be call Troll Cheese!
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    Hah, 4 point axers... would be fair.... super fair.

    Axerspam with eMaddy for Warpath and Killing Ground... And take a Mauler for Rage...

    "Trade you an Axer for your Warpwolf. No tradebacks."
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    well i for one like this idea, how about.......
    GunnBjorn+6
    x 14 swamp trolls
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    Shea +6
    x18 Buccs
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    x 18 bull snappers.
    If your opponent has you outgunned, outnumbered, outflanked, and outmatched, that's the time to do something stupid

    Get to ze rigid airship!!
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    XD, against shae, you'd be boned, He can have all his jacks charge for free a +2 speed, 18 buccaneers charging and throwing nets. glorious.
    Freebooter VS Nomad
    This is assuming charging, and against a knocked down target with armor 20 (average d6 roll is a 3.5)
    Freebooter: 14+14=28 14+10.5=25 for a total damage of 13
    Nomad : 17+10.5=28 14+7=21 for a total damage of 9

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    For the record I have tried Gunnbjorn with 13 Pyre Trolls and I'll tell you right now, they don't hit heavies hard enough. Everything else is toast though.
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    How about

    Calandra
    Swamp Trolls x 7
    Impaler x 5
    Whelps

    Probably just as terrible and still no way to damage heavies. However, with some far strike and fury management you could at least go for some crit slams and chain drags to pull models all over the table to set up an assination run.

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    I've always wanted to try a eDoomshaper list with every light troll in it

    Doomshaper Rage of Dhunia +6
    Slag Troll -6
    Axer -6
    Impaler -5
    Bouncer -5
    Winter -5
    Pyre -5
    Swamp -4

    I think with the Axer and Slag/Pyre, you have the ability to hurt heavies. That list leaves 20pts for support and maybe a tarpit infantry unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatblah View Post
    For the record I have tried Gunnbjorn with 13 Pyre Trolls and I'll tell you right now, they don't hit heavies hard enough. Everything else is toast though.
    That makes my day....

    Ever thought about 75 points and taking a few heavies?
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    rule of thumb:

    If nothing in your army hits harder than base pow 12 -13 without weaponmaster, you are going to get murdercated.


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    Yah. Points all taken. However, I like the fun factor. I'm just going to have to lower my expectations for results factor In a fifty I could make it even more obnoxious and bring our Big armor cracking buddy.

    Grim + 6
    MountainKing - 20
    5xSwamp Trolls - 20
    Impalerm-5
    Whelps-2
    Burrowers - 6
    Fell Caller - 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatblah View Post
    For the record I have tried Gunnbjorn with 13 Pyre Trolls and I'll tell you right now, they don't hit heavies hard enough. Everything else is toast though.
    This is nothing short of inspiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatblah View Post
    For the record I have tried Gunnbjorn with 13 Pyre Trolls and I'll tell you right now, they don't hit heavies hard enough. Everything else is toast though.
    Heh, toast. I see what you did there!

    I think the only possibility with the Swamp Trolls is to use their drag thinger to pull apart the army, then have some sort of a super assassination run. I bet that would be insanely difficult to pull off.

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