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    Default My new favorite caster...

    So I've been trying eVyros out for a few games now, and was using non-tier lists similar to lists I typically use (Invictors, 2x SFA, etc.), and I wasn't have much luck. I decided to try his theme force, and I was totally surprised by its effectiveness. I played against a 35 point Circle list that had the following:

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    Warpwolf Stalker
    Woldwarden
    Max Wolves of Oroboros +UA
    Morraig
    Bog Trogs
    Blackclad Wayfarer

    (might have had other things, I can't remember all of his list)

    Here is what I took:

    eVyros
    Hydra
    Griffon
    Max Sentinels + UA
    Min Destors
    Min Destors
    Thane

    Just for kicks, we decided to try radial deployment since neither of us had never tried it before, and were playing for straight caster/lock kill.

    He went first, ran mostly everything up, Krueger cast Stormwall.

    I positioned my destors on the flanks, and ran one north and put one of them in B2B with his Warpwolf, with the other 2 close to it. Other destors ran south to flank. Thane ran up the middle and got into B2B with his Woldwarden I think. Sentinels run, and I put the Hydra (with 3 focus) just outside of Krueger's control area, and attempt to snipe, which missed even with a boosted attack. Griffon moved to south side with Destors. I feated.

    He killed the north destors and the Thane, and brought his bog trogs in on my southern Destors, hurt one but didn't kill any. I made a move (1 destor killed was outside of control area for feat, silly me). Moved his wolves of oroboros, and Kreuger feated.

    I moved my Sentinels up a little bit due to the SPD reduction, and engaged and killed a wolf or two I think, took another shot at Krueger with Hydra, which missed again.

    We traded kills, I was able to use Sentinels Vengeance to great effect, and I cast Synergy. I started Vyros, who did a ride-by attack on his Warpwolf (btw, ride-by attacks are amazing with getting to move back out of range once complete) and used Quick Work to kill the Blackclad (love that ability), then activated Griffon which killed a couple wolves, bringing Synergy to +2. Charged the Warpwolf with the Hydra, which hit with both initial attacks, damaging the Warpwolf significantly. Used the free headbutt, boosted to hit, and boosted damage, killing the Warpwolf. The Sentinels charged the Woldwarden and reduced it to a pile of sad rubble. Southern destors moved and killed some more wolves. I mopped up, leaving Kreuger as his only model. He tried an ranged/magic assasination run after killing a Sentinel. He failed, and my Sentinels killed him with their Vengeance attacks. I still had 5 sentinels, the officer, and the SB; 2 destors, the griffon, the hydra, and eVyros at the end.

    I absolutely LOVE his tier list now, and this is the first time in as long as I've been playing Ret than I can remember that I did NOT take Stormfall Archers. Admittedly, I felt a little naked without them, but the extra first turn SPD for the Destors and Thane allowing them to tie up key pieces until the Sentinels were able to assist.

    Griffon and Hydra and truly money with him. For a 50 point game, I'm thinking of adding a Phoenix to get more out of Lock the Target and contribute to the Synergy chain.

    I know I might be biting off more than I can chew, but I can't wait to try this list (or my 50 point version) against an eLylyth list to see if it can beat it.

    I do have a couple questions for anyone that decided to continue reading this long about eVyros...

    1. Are his blade and gun magical weapons?
    2. For Twister, do you have to designate a target, or can you use it for the cloud effect only?
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    Nice, sounds like fun.

    About your questions:
    1. Everything I've seen indicates both gun and sword are magical weapons. Squinting at the page in the RHQ video shows they both have one symbol associated with them, which should be magical weapon.
    2. Twister is an offensive AOE spell that has a secondary effect as a cloud, so yes, you need to target and attack something.
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    Thanks for the information Sess...can you use Twister to target a friendly model, like a warjack to get concealment? Being low POW I don't think warjacks have to worry about being hurt by it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunSeraph06 View Post
    Thanks for the information Sess...can you use Twister to target a friendly model, like a warjack to get concealment? Being low POW I don't think warjacks have to worry about being hurt by it...
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    Thanks for the battle report! Not a big deal, since it sounds like the Hydra had the Warpwolf's number, but Quick Work only triggers when Vyros kills a model in melee, so he could not have used it to shoot the Blackclad Wayfarer after smacking the Warpwolf.

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    Oops, I think he also killed a wolf of oroboros with one of his swings, I know he killed something to trigger Quick Work, and also smacked the Warpwolf...can't remember what it was though...
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    Ah, carry on then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunSeraph06 View Post
    Oops, I think he also killed a wolf of oroboros with one of his swings, I know he killed something to trigger Quick Work, and also smacked the Warpwolf...can't remember what it was though...
    I think even then he shouldn't have been able to use Quick Work, since he doesn't have Gunfighter. It sounds like you still had the Warpwolf in melee, right? Therefore, if he is in melee he can't make ranged attacks, so can't use the attack from Quick Work.

    Essentially, to get your ranged attack from Quick Work the model you destroyed had to be the last one in Vyros' melee range, or all of the other models in his melee range have to be knocked down/stationary (since KD/stationary models cannot engage or be engaged, meaning he wouldn't be in melee with them).
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    Hmmm, I may have messed up then....oops, still learning him, too used to the Ravyn gun kata
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunSeraph06 View Post
    Hmmm, I may have messed up then....oops, still learning him, too used to the Ravyn gun kata
    Yeah, just wanted to point it out for future reference, since it's a little counter-intuitive. Especially since we're used to Ravyn, heh.
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