Compiled Woldwrath Spoilers

[Ruan]

I'm going to go with fildrigar here and be dubious... but I'll be the first to say hallelujah if this is in fact the case. The Woldwrath in general might be fixing a few things in Circle that really haven't made too much sense - possibly good ranged attacks makes Awareness make sense for Grayle. All those Fury 6 casters with offensive spells suddenly won't have too much trouble hitting with them. All the various crit effects...

I've said for awhile that I would love to see a caster with a spell that allowed boosted magic attack rolls. To have it with a self animus though? Meaning that (depending on exact wording) all of our warlocks have access to it? Seems too good to be true. If it is true though... Circle just got one heck of a booster shot to our offensive spell power. Even Kromac would have a reason to take one now - suddenly Rift assassination runs are even more of a huge threat.

Plus, if this is a self animus... that means that warlocks can cast it on themselves too if the Woldwrath is somehow out of position. All those range 10 offensive spells...

... this really sounds too good to be true. I'm hoping it is, but seriously? Are we getting this nice a toy? That animus alone would almost make it worth the points to take it, especially at 10". If it was more like the Storm Strider's Superconductor rule that buffed up attack rolls against a target within 5", it'd be more believable.

Whatever the case may be, if this -is- true... man, every Circle player's checkbook is about to take a hit.

[MOZZ]

Well, it's good to take it with a grain of salt but BoLS is carrying these rumors now too from WargamesCon. Privateer Press is there, makes sense that they might be showing some of this off.

[PG_fildrigar]

Well, it's good to take it with a grain of salt but BoLS is carrying these rumors now too from WargamesCon. Privateer Press is there, makes sense that they might be showing some of this off.

Hopefully it does turn out to be true. What I can find by Google is mostly track backs to the MoM post. One thing that has me confused, is that the Animus appears to be called Druid's Wrath. Isn't that the name of the Wold Warden's Chain Attack? PP doesn't seem terribly keen on using the same names for different abilities. EDIT: Druid's Wrath was the name of their Chain Attack in MK1. Mk2 it's called Chain Attack: Smite.

Again, I will be overjoyed if it turns out to be true. I was a little worried about the stock of Druids going down as more models that are immune to their big shtick enter the game. This Animus will raise their stock back up again.

[VOLK]

ok so thought of a sick list for him, check this out (if he is 19 points of course)

50 pts

mohsar
woldwrath
shadowhorn
gnarlhorn
black clad
celestial fulcrum
druids and ua
and either 2 gg or 1 ss

That looks pretty bad, actually. You have no armor crackers except presumably the WWrath itself, and your other heavies are support/set-up pieces.

[VOLK]

Might be someone trollin'. The only info in the post is my quote from above, along with "Courtesy of our friend Michael Chilly Winters here are some things that we now know about Gargantuans." Furthermore, the name Michael Chilly Winters is a poorly executed hyperlink to www.taylorswift.com. ( Poorly executed, because it's a link to the article itself at Muse on Minis with the Taylor Swift url tacked on the end. )

Dubious provenance. I'd be very happy to see some confirmation.

Winters is legit, he's one of the local Texas Renegades crew that are running the WM events at WarGamesCon (where I should be now if my coworkers weren't useless bastards). His Taylor Swift obsession is disconcerting, but you get used to it.

[PG_fildrigar]

Winters is legit, he's one of the local Texas Renegades crew that are running the WM events at WarGamesCon (where I should be now if my coworkers weren't useless bastards). His Taylor Swift obsession is disconcerting, but you get used to it.

Yeah, Privateer Press has a bad habit of attending/creating conventions just after I move away. I was at WarGamesCon last year, and had a great time.

[eliassmith27]

I really like the new animus It will definitely synergize with our faction. It will really makes the druids shine. Great for most of our casters. All around great animus.

[PG_LEJKaya]

BOLS has exact wording:
Circle WoldWrath's Animus
Druid's Wrath
Cost:2 Range: Self
Friendly faction model's magic attack rolls against enemy models within 10" of this model are boosted.


Which sorts out many of the issues asked about above.

[theaY]

BOLS has exact wording:
Circle WoldWrath's Animus
Druid's Wrath
Cost:2 Range: Self
Friendly faction model's magic attack rolls against enemy models within 10" of this model are boosted.


Which sorts out many of the issues asked about above.

Incredible!

[rpavers]

BOLS has exact wording:
Circle WoldWrath's Animus
Druid's Wrath
Cost:2 Range: Self
Friendly faction model's magic attack rolls against enemy models within 10" of this model are boosted.


Which sorts out many of the issues asked about above.

Awesome! Much easier reading imo now.

[eliassmith27]

Trust me. No one was more disappointed than me

I was really looking forward to dropping some lightning storm AOEs at range and enjoying the look on my opponent's face when I placed a AOE 4 template on his model after hitting it in melee and telling him everything under that template is now knocked down!

Fury 3 on something called the Woldwrath? Now that would be silly...

Also spoiled to me at Lock & Load by the artist who designed him, He will have a self healing ability similar to Megaliths


So put together

Construct

SPD ?
STR ?
MAT ?
Rat ?
DEF ?
ARM ?
CMD -
FURY 4/5 (I don't see him having any more then 5 FURY, probably 4)

2+ POW 10 Lightning Storm 3"AOEs (as per the spell). Might be an alternative to normal shots with higher POW.


A main gun with unknown traits

2x On hit center a 4"AOE on Target and Knock down models under the AOE


Other Rules:
Self Healing of some sort
???

Circle WoldWrath's Animus
Druid's Wrath
Cost:2 Range: Self
Friendly faction model's magic attack rolls against enemy models within 10" of this model are boosted.


And the Argus's Animus will do almost nothing for this beast.

Am I missing anything thus far spoiled?

[Joasht]

I'm loving that animus, but it sure looks like it would be a very, very tight squeeze at 35 points with all those Druids...

[Mercykiller]

You are missing the sculptor who came on to thread and specifically stated he has no idea if there'll be a self-healing thing on Woldwrath, he just thought it would be cool if it did have it.

[PG_LEJKaya]

Earths Blessing was a MkI Baldur Spell its now the Wold Watchers Animus.
The Woldwatchers Animus itself is based on the MkI Megalith Animus, which was called Rooted, that name evolved to Roots of the Earth.
Druids Wrath was the chain attack, this kind of follows the pattern.

[Blaque]

Earths Blessing was a MkI Baldur Spell its now the Wold Watchers Animus.
The Woldwatchers Animus itself is based on the MkI Megalith Animus, which was called Rooted, that name evolved to Roots of the Earth.
Druids Wrath was the chain attack, this kind of follows the pattern.

Yeah, we have had names of abilities move about a bit through the years. Another example: Wraithbane use to be a special rule on weapons specifically able to harm Incorporeal models. It was on the Woldwyrd originally. Now it's the Purelbood animus that grants the Magical quality to weapons.

Sure there are plenty of rules like that about, really.

And stuff.

[PG_circletakesthesquare]

Similar to morvahna's spell wurmwood... Becoming a godlike figure in our faction... Quite a step up imo

[VOLK]

Yeah, I think every Tournament Circle player will run that Tier as one of the lists. It just became (or rather will become) too good to not use.

I disagree, I think you're exaggerating by a large margin. Even with this animus I wouldn't want to run two units of Druids. Boosted attack rolls or no, that's still 16 points spent on POW10s. Really bad idea.

[Legrasse]

I disagree, I think you're exaggerating by a large margin. Even with this animus I wouldn't want to run two units of Druids. Boosted attack rolls or no, that's still 16 points spent on POW10s. Really bad idea.

The best two benefits are at T1. I think we will see it a lot, but you're right to say its a mistake to play it beyond T1. Luckily you don't have to.

[Blaque]

The best two benefits are at T1. I think we will see it a lot, but you're right to say its a mistake to play it beyond T1. Luckily you don't have to.

Seconding this. I would rather have points so I could take more Blackclads, the Lord of the Feast, or Woldshrimp before I go all-in on something that only increases the list's ability to get hosed by Errant spam.

And stuff.

[PG_fildrigar]

Still nothing on who this information came from? No updates at MoM, nor BoLS.

[PG_LEJKaya]

The WoD list is awesome, I mostly play T1 too though the T4 at 50 isn't terrible. Two units of druids isn't a great investment but the 2" deployment really is good in this. Also by T4 you can pretty much ensure you have almost everything AD which is good.
Still if you're adding in a woldwrath, the first thing you drop are druids to make it fit.

[rpavers]

WoD T4 might have some hard counters with anti magic stuff, but it seems like even more control for a control heavy list. Being able to redeploy (can you redeploy a colossal?) really ensures you will get to pick your match ups and the extra deployment area is really awesome.

[PG_LEJKaya]

I can't see anything to prevent redeployment at first glance but I have asked. Thats pretty useful actually, maybe set a trap for the models an opponent expects to counter your colossal with.

[PG_fildrigar]

Muse on Minis is trying to become a popular and respected website. Posting fake spoilers would be a very, very bad idea.

Posting spoilers without attribution on a Friday, then not updating anything all weekend long is not a good way to become respected. They were posting regularly at Lock and Load. Sure, Wargamescon isn't as big and important as Lock and Load, but good gravy, man. All we've got to go on is one set of three potential spoilers that all seem to link back to the same unattributed source. And, I can't seem to find any results anywhere for any of the Warmachine events. ( Yeah, yeah, War Games Con is primarily focused on 40k. ) Sheesh.

[WintersChill]

Might be someone trollin'. The only info in the post is my quote from above, along with "Courtesy of our friend Michael Chilly Winters here are some things that we now know about Gargantuans." Furthermore, the name Michael Chilly Winters is a poorly executed hyperlink to www.taylorswift.com. ( Poorly executed, because it's a link to the article itself at Muse on Minis with the Taylor Swift url tacked on the end. )

Dubious provenance. I'd be very happy to see some confirmation.

I don't know how else to confirm it other than to tell you that I was talking to Will Hungerford and those spoilers are what he told me.

Are you calling Will Hungerford a liar? I smell a mutiny!

P.S. MoM crew was not at WAR Games Con. The Texas Renegades were running it and we are techonologically stupid and don't know what twitter is, and we had no internets to post on the forums.

[PG_fildrigar]

I don't know how else to confirm it other than to tell you that I was talking to Will Hungerford and those spoilers are what he told me.

Are you calling Will Hungerford a liar? I smell a mutiny!

P.S. MoM crew was not at WAR Games Con. The Texas Renegades were running it and we are techonologically stupid and don't know what twitter is, and we had no internets to post on the forums.

Well, there's some attribution. Thank you. None of the posts mentioning this information contained any attribution, not even an "Anonymous PP staffer says..."

[Bloodwind]

So two things.
First off, people have mentioned Morvahna; but no one is talking about influence. This nasty idea occured to me to use Gallows Grove, influence and harvest to mow through large clumps of small based infantry. This would be more powerful if that unit is near Megalith (my original idea); but -2 def doesn't really compare to an extra die to hit, especially since the AoE is so much larger.

Second, has anyone hear what it`s interference ability is called? If it has one; 'cause if we can teleport this thing around...

Face palm edit: wait... Gargantuan beasts cannot be placed

[kaneblaise]

So two things.
First off, people have mentioned Morvahna; but no one is talking about influence. This nasty idea occured to me to use Gallows Grove, influence and harvest to mow through large clumps of small based infantry. This would be more powerful if that unit is near Megalith (my original idea); but -2 def doesn't really compare to an extra die to hit, especially since the AoE is so much larger.

Second, has anyone hear what it`s interference ability is called? If it has one; 'cause if we can teleport this thing around...

Face palm edit: wait... Gargantuan beasts cannot be placed

Thread necro much? There are plenty of more current Woldwrath discussions where influence if indeed mentioned as a good tactic with her, especially against reach-weaponmaster infantry.