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    Default a few Cygnar faction questions

    So, I'm getting back into Warmachine after 10 years. I started when it first came out, loved it, but had Warhammer 40,000 to focus on, and my Tau have kept my attention (and pocket book) since then. However, I've become somewhat... bored with 40k, so I want to restart my beloved Cygnar.

    A few things are sad: Haley's old temporal barrier is no longer the absurdly powerful upkeep spell it once was. Ah well, it was WAY to powerful IMO.

    At any rate, I have many questions:

    Can you actually charge your own models? This seems silly, but I was reading thread's on how to make eCaine more powerful.

    When making magic attack roles, is that based on current focus or total focus? Example:
    When using eHaley's time bomb, do you just roll 8+2d6, or (if this is the first thing you've cast and have max focus) do you roll 4+2d6? If it's the latter, how are offensive spells used effectively? Hitting seems impossible...

    Do people find the Themed Cygnar lists at all worth it?

    Is it possible for eStryker to heal himself via focus if he 'kills' himself with overload?

    Does the Hunter's armour piercing ability stack with Major Brisbane's feat? If so, how?

    Also, how long does Breach last for? A single attack or the entire round?

    How does the ATGM officer's rune shot work with a 'Jack marshaled Cyclone? Rapid fire is just a normal attack right? So does rune shot apply to each of the d3 shots? Is it the same rune per shot? Can you change runes per shot? Are the shots done simultaneously?

    ie, Can I push someone back 3d3" or do I have to see if I push them out of range before I fire the next shot?

    Can you use combined range attack twice with long gunners that are using dual shot?

    Can Major Laddermore 'join' a unit of Storm Lances (so they can all benefit from arcane shield, for example)?

    Considering prowl, since it says concealment, does it mean that if you're behind a wall (ie cover, not concealment) do you still gain stealth?

    Oh, one last question. Does charging with a melee weapon that is also a weapon master mean that you get str+4d6 damage? (like bane thralls, ugh) Or kara sloans gun.

    I think this is everything for now. Thanks for everyone's help!

    Cheers!

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    Can you actually charge your own models? This seems silly, but I was reading thread's on how to make eCaine more powerful.


    Yes




    When making magic attack roles, is that based on current focus or total focus? Example:
    When using eHaley's time bomb, do you just roll 8+2d6, or (if this is the first thing you've cast and have max focus) do you roll 4+2d6? If it's the latter, how are offensive spells used effectively? Hitting seems impossible...


    Total focus


    Do people find the Themed Cygnar lists at all worth it?

    Some are better than others


    Is it possible for eStryker to heal himself via focus if he 'kills' himself with overload?


    No once a warcaster sufferers enough damage it's model is removed from the table


    Does the Hunter's armour piercing ability stack with Major Brisbane's feat? If so, how?

    No

    Also, how long does Breach last for? A single attack or the entire round?

    Until the end of your turn or till a model is hit once


    How does the ATGM officer's rune shot work with a 'Jack marshaled Cyclone? Rapid fire is just a normal attack right? So does rune shot apply to each of the d3 shots? Is it the same rune per shot? Can you change runes per shot? Are the shots done simultaneously?

    You can choose for each shot


    ie, Can I push someone back 3d3" or do I have to see if I push them out of range before I fire the next shot?


    Yes to both


    Can you use combined range attack twice with long gunners that are using dual shot?

    Yes and you can mix and match


    Can Major Laddermore 'join' a unit of Storm Lances (so they can all benefit from arcane shield, for example)?

    No she's a solo and there a unit. Only either or can have as on it at a time from one aource


    Considering prowl, since it says concealment, does it mean that if you're behind a wall (ie cover, not concealment) do you still gain stealth?

    Concealment is clouds and forests or spells that grant concealment cover is different

    Oh, one last question. Does charging with a melee weapon that is also a weapon master mean that you get str+4d6 damage? (like bane thralls, ugh) Or kara sloans gun.

    Yes you can boost Kara's gun to 4d6 a charge grants a free boost
    I think this is everything for now. Thanks for everyone's help!
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    Wow what a list. I'll try to fill in at least what I know.

    1 yes you can but I believe you have to attack said model. Cain and Stryker get around it with movement shenanigans.

    2 you cast from your total focus not your pool. Otherwise offensive spells wouldn't work.

    3 most limit you to much but I've heard good things about Estryker and Constance. Also they're just fine for casual.

    4 not sure but I think it's a no.

    5 no the both halve base arm not current arm. No reason to not take one though. Breech only lasts one turn.

    6 breach expires on each model after the first hit.

    7 the rune shot only aplies to the first shot every turn so the other shots will not gave the effect. Straf creates extra shots ignoring rof but they are still seperate. Not confirmed but in a issue of no quarter a member of PP did apply the snipe bonus to covering fire though. But there has been no official explination of it.


    8 you resolve each shot separator as it's own attack so you will never push multiple dice

    9 yes that is why they are so deadly but remember they have to hold still to do so.

    10 unfortunately no she is a solo not a UA or WA so choos witch one needs it most.

    11 not sure but I would asune if you are hiding behind a big wall you are also concealed.

    12 yes so watch out for them. On another note you don't get a dmg bonus for charging with a ranged weapon so no dice for Kara. I believe runewood is our only weapon master unfortunantly.
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    Yes

    focus stat

    NO

    Nope

    NO

    Yes a single attack, and if its on a warlock and he transfers its expired on the warlock and beast

    yes. yes. if you want. yes but that is really answered but the first few. no.

    push them before you fire the next shot

    yes

    No very sadly

    uhhh I think so

    YUP except the charge part on kara's gun...she can buy the boosted damage roll though, I think that is what you meant.
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    It is not total focus if you had some means of getting more focus than your focus stat you would not use that number.
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