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    Default Everblight 2012 - Part XV (More Vayl)

    http://handcannononline.com/blog/201...-2012-part-xv/

    For this article I wanted to talk about some of the more advanced tactics to keep in mind while playing her. I also wanted to look at Neutralyze's Gencon 2011 List vs Jeremy Miller's Templecon 2011 because they both had great success with some interesting choices. I also go into where my Vayl1 list was at for Lock and Load, how it progressed and where I think Vayl1 lists may be heading.
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    Great read, as all of your Everblight blogs are, thanks for sharing.


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    Thanks. I get nervous when i am referencing other players' lists. But thier lists have really helped inspire me. I also like pointing out how two amazing Legion players can win big events with so much variance to thier choices.
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    Great read thanks for contributing to our community. Vayl1 is one of my all time favorite warlocks and I never get tired of reading about her

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    I've been using proteus with her as well lately going back to when he was released. I like the threat of leash, SS walk and drg but miss the higher ps of the Scythean an take down. We will see how it ends up.
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    So Neut, i wanted to ask you...after factoring how good raptors are as as reinforcements would you still run them in the main list for her? If so what do you think of as your reinforcements? I know she is no crutch for you so you may not have thought about it
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    The best thing about Proteus with her is that if they try to engage Vayl with anything but a model with reach that gets b2b with her, Proteus will almost guarantee that under Dark Sentinel it'll get pulled out of melee range. Typhon has to get lucky to do that.

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    It's still a long shot anyways and can be mitigated as ou said by models with reach. It's really not too hard to do

    I want raptors to stay. They hit hard in melee and range. With her feat I jam them and block Los and make them sit there.
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    What do you think would be rein forcements for her then?ravagore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutralyze View Post
    It's still a long shot anyways and can be mitigated as ou said by models with reach. It's really not too hard to do
    Not that long a shot. The attack is boosted and how many exceptionally high def things are gonna get on her that a boosted MAT 6 can't reliably hit?

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    It's all about model positioning and proteus's position in relation to the charging model.
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    I usually flank proteus to Vayl, sometimes even hanging back 1-2" and to the side 3-4". So long as they can't charge the exact opposite side of her (using terrain or other models to make that less appealing) then you can easily pull it off without complication, usually not even provoking a free strike. It is geometrically limited but even with that it's about 50% more reliable than crit pitch from Typhon, especially with chiller upkept.
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