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    Default 1 point Rhulic model wishlist?

    So when building Searforge there are a few times i will come up 1 point short. It took many years for us to get the new warcaster we wanted....how long for the one point dwarf?

    I was thinking it would either be a weapon attachment for the hammerfall or horgenhold, but i also wouldnt mind a 1 point mechanic that is similar to the Arcanist or vassal mechanik (maybe the IK dwarf mechanic or a basic Ghordson mechanic).

    What kind of weapon attachments for out units do guys think would help Searforge most? i think a rocketeer or grenadier for hammerfall for synergy with madhammer. Im not sure what would benefit horgenhold most though.

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    I'd love to see a Hammerfall demolitions WA that has the Diversionary Tactics ability... When your gunline gets caught in melee, drop some grenades and clear out of there.
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    Mines (X2) with AOE3 and Pow10/12 and advanced deploy.

    (I'm a total noob so that may be under/over powered.)
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    I was about ready to start this topic, actually. I could think of a few things we'd use. Perhaps an inexpensive UA for forge guard. The aforementioned WA for the HHSG, with an aoe or diversionary tactics, would be cool. I think it'd be neat to have a solo that works with our artillery? He/she could move between units with a little buff. Something that would expand the aoe size (since we have ossrum's snipe already) would be sweet. Lastly, I think a mini-squire would be handy, and very helpful for Gorten. Or they could make rockbottom only a point fof us, since we only get half the utility.

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    I would love a non-character mechanic. Too much is resting on Thor as it is for Rhulic stuff. Can only take him in one list at a character restricted tournament, and with his awesome Tune-Up skill you never get a chance to actually repair anything with him anyway.

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    The Rhulic Pistoleer from IK could provide Ossrum and Gorten with a reliable Magic Weapon, and possible give him ammo types to include an AoE so he synergizes with Madhammer also, The Rhulic Mechanik could have power boooster to help with the dwarves lack of focus. Diversionary tactics would be awesome with us.

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    We need a 1 point ogrun midget warcaster attachment. I have no idea what he does, just that he fit's the bill We have to think along the lines of other 1 point models. As cool as the pistoleer would be, I can't see him costing only 1 point. And the High shields don't seem like they are one of our more favored units although with Ossrum that seems to be changing, and I do really like that diversionary tactics idea. Outside of Ossrum or Gorten's tier list I never use mine. For everything that he does it could be very easy to argue that Thor is under costed. I've been playing dwarves for over a year now and there are a couple guys at my lgs that still can't get over everything he can do. I am constantly being asked, "Are you sure that hasn't been errated?" Our 1 point model would have to be along the same vein as the war dog for khador. I'm not sure how much the squire is but I'm thinking that even that is 2 points. If they just allowed Reinholdt to work for us that would be great.
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    The pistoleer would definately be a 2-3 point solo. As for Hammerfall i can understand why people dislike them but i love this unit. But now that i think about it i play Searforge a lot, i use them in every 25+ searforge list but ive never used them outside of Searforge in about 4 years. I think the WA would solve the 1 point Rhulic issue and possibly bring these guys into Highborn and Fourstar more often if the WA was good enough. a Rocketeer, something that does diversionary tactics, or something brand new. The Mechanik could fit fine as well, the Vassal Mechanikl and Arcanist are both 1 point and they both have repair....the Arcanist has other awesome abilities as well.

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    Horgenhold Artillery Spotter:
    Grants +2 on attack rolls for any friendly Siege Cannon that has LOS to this model and is within this models command range, against a target that this models has LOS to.
    If this model is within 5" of a model with stealth, any friendly Siege Cannon that has LOS to this model and is within this models command range ignores that models stealth.
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    Could be any ranged AOE but I feel that'd be a bit much for 1 point
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    Other models with Artillerist (Trencher Master Gunner, Dougal MacNaile) are 2 points and have extra abilities and wounds. A 1-wound solo with Artillerist (* Action, +2 to ranged AOE attack rolls, and re-rolling the direction and/or distance of the scatter) would probably be enough to justify a 1-point cost, and would go a long way to making the Rhulic artillery more useful.
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    No doubt, but in the end it wouldn't help the artillery corps, artillerist would go straight on Durgen or Arguebus Jonne. I'd love to have that in a straight Searforge army, but then we'd have two Artillerists in faction as well, and I don't think we'll get that.

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    Just gimme a rhulic version of the Arcanist. He does not even need to be able to repair. All I want is the ability to put a focus onto a warjack.

    Thor can only be so many places, and he does relatively little for the gun-bunnies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholas_342 View Post
    Our 1 point model would have to be along the same vein as the war dog for khador.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholas_342 View Post
    Our 1 point model would have to be along the same vein as the war dog for khador.
    I know exactly what the Stunties need!!!

    WAR BADGERS!!!


    They could have burrow as a special ability, kind of like sprint... Kill a model, and burrow afterwards!!
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    I think, that while a non-character Thor would be cool, it would be rather boring.
    I would like to see something new and exciting. I really don't worry about a 1 point solo that much, since we have access to 2 different 3 point solos and two 3 point jacks.
    I find that I am not usually needing to fill that odd one point.
    That being said, I love the idea of the Rhulic pistoleer. I always liked that model, and would love to see him on the table. Or the ogrun fighter would be a cool solo at 3 points. Basically think a Bokur stats with a hand cannon, a PS15 reach for the halberd and a ps12 axe attack. Maybe give him thresher on his axe, and Dismember on his Halberd
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    Wow I just read the Arcanist's description on Battle College; is that really a one-point model? If so, I want one for us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnustheJust View Post
    WAR BADGERS!!!


    They could have burrow as a special ability, kind of like sprint... Kill a model, and burrow afterwards!!
    War is definitely not how I would describe these badgers
    Signatures take too much space.

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    It doesn't matter what it is as long as it provides magical weapon / spd buff / upkeep removal / pathfinder in some way.
    Even if the spd buff and pathfinder are being brought into the contract by Awesome.



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    pattison, you are right, but way too reasonable.

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    Yah if they could add the Pistoleer for magic weapon, the Mechanik for power booster, that rhulic thief model for speed buff/movement shenanigans or maybe the mark the target rule from the rangers, and another beefy ogrun fighter model...maybe 4 points and make him real good? plus we have zero models in the 4 point range as well.

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    Arcnode gunbunny for four points?

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    A random list of 1-point solos/UA/WAs
    Khador:
    Winterguard Rocketeer
    War Dog

    Cryx:
    Brute Thrall
    Machine Wraith

    Cygnar:
    Trencher Grenider
    Stormcaller

    Mercs:
    Reinholdt
    Sea Dog Riflemen

    Trollkin:
    Caber Thrower
    Stone Scribe Elder

    Circle:
    War Wolf

    Legion:
    Shepard

    Minion:
    Feralgeist


    Rhulic medic, giving Tough in CMD?
    Sniper solo?
    Warcaster attachment?
    Forge Guard WA smoke grenade tosser?
    High Shield WA spray template?

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    Medium base, 8 wound unit attachment a'la Brute Thrall.
    An ogrun with Forge Guard or High Shields.
    Nope, we'll never get such an attachment for 1 point. That would be TOO CRYX.



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    pattison, you are right, but way too reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whats82 View Post
    War is definitely not how I would describe these badgers
    It was a post-battle snapshot...
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    The easiest thing would be to let Searforge include Swamp Gobbers.

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    I'd love a non-character mechanic. I've lost count of how many times I've had bunnies wandering about just trying to get in the way because they've lost critical systems to a lucky hit. Not like a mob of drillers or the like would mind either.

    Rhulic Arcanist is a neat idea too, but I somehow can't see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnustheJust View Post
    WAR BADGERS!!!
    No war. No badgers... Me am confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StJason View Post
    A random list of 1-point solos/UA/WAs
    Khador:
    Winterguard Rocketeer
    War Dog
    You forgot Assault Kommando Flamethrower


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    Quote Originally Posted by StJason View Post
    No war. No badgers... Me am confused...

    As I said, this was a post-battle pic... They had already waged war for the day, and were enjoying some well earned down time.

    Speaking of which, I hear the rally call - Time go release the war badgers!!

    {aka - the ferrets want out to play...}
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnustheJust View Post
    I know exactly what the Stunties need!!!

    WAR BADGERS!!!


    They could have burrow as a special ability, kind of like sprint... Kill a model, and burrow afterwards!!
    Badgers isn't how I'd describe these ferrets...
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    You haven't met them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buoyancy of Water View Post
    You forgot Assault Kommando Flamethrower

    He forgot the two best 1 point models in the game - the shifting stone UA -The Stone Keeper, and the Swamp Gobbers.

    What would a 1 point sniper be like? A widowmakers, maybe with hunter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffyjoe View Post
    He forgot the two best 1 point models in the game - the shifting stone UA -The Stone Keeper, and the Swamp Gobbers.
    Gallows Grove.



    But for Rhul I'd want a power booster model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEJKaya View Post
    Gallows Grove.



    But for Rhul I'd want a power booster model.
    I havn't decided whether the Grove is as good with all casters as the stone keeper and swamp gobbers are.

    A retribution style archanist would be great with the Rhul's.

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    Hammerfall Highshield Spotter:

    WA or solo: 1 pt

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    Rhulic Ancestral Guardian Spirit
    RAT 0, MAT 0, POW 0
    Incorporeal.
    Attached.
    Magic Ability: 7
    * Null Magic
    * Dispel Magic

    Hammerfall High Shield Medic WA
    Gives Tough to unit.

    Horgenhold Smokepot WA
    No hammer, instead can throw Smoke Bombs ala Trenchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnustheJust View Post
    I know exactly what the Stunties need!!!

    WAR BADGERS!!!


    They could have burrow as a special ability, kind of like sprint... Kill a model, and burrow afterwards!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx6TB...e_gdata_player
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    Here's a 1 pt solo my brother came up with during the days of the Stonefathers Rhulic Development Group:

    Furnace Stoker (Large Base model with a wheelbarrow full of coal)

    Special Action: Allocate 1 focus to target jack b2b with this model.
    Special Action: Target jack b2b with model gains Relentless Charge for 1 round and can charge for free, and must charge during its next activation.

    Simple, effective, and can give a jack pathfinder. I rather liked this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassilon View Post
    Here's a 1 pt solo my brother came up during the days of the Stonefathers Rhulic Development Group:

    Furnace Stoker (Large Base model with a wheelbarrow full of coal)

    Special Action: Allocate 1 focus to target jack b2b with this model.
    Special Action: Target jack b2b with model gains Relentless Charge for 1 round and can charge for free, and must charge during its next activation.

    Simple, effective, and can give a jack pathfinder. I rather liked this one.

    I could see that being a 40mm base for 1 point, but not a large...
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    The rule on it was the same as is on the light artillery when the model is tested as a small base model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenlen View Post
    Horgenhold Artillery Spotter
    Horgenhold Artillery Corps Quartermaster: Reduces cost of all Horgenhold Artillery Corps by 1 point.

    Nothing more required!

    Ogrun Assault Corps Prodder: OAC gain Assault.

    I still like the idea of using the Rhulic Pistoleer model as a solo gun mage. Searforge could do with a ranged solo, and after all, we do make those magelock pistols.

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