Need List Advice

[Noble_dead]

Good evening all,

Here is the current issue I am facing.

My girlfrien wants to start playing Legion of Everblight and I have been elected as the dedicated painter. Both of us are new to the game and plan on using our factions of choice to learn the rules, game play ect.

I mainly focus on Cryx and know what I need. However I have not really studied LOE at all and I am trying to hone in on a unit.

Currently she has
PLylyth
PThagrosh
2 Harriers
4 Shredders
1 Raek
1 Teraph
2 Carniveans
Blackfrost Shard
2 Shepherds

Here available options are rather light on infantry units, and I am at a lose on what she will need to be able to learn that aspect.

Also any advice I can relay to her in Cryx counters would be helpful as well.


Thank you for your time.

[Northern Ronin]

Hard to go wrong with a legion staple, Striders + UA. Also, she'll need a greater breath of heavies, while I love the carni to death, it's extremely uncommon you'll ever want 2 in a list, but Ravagores, Angels and Seraphs all fill very important roles that other beasts cannot fill.

[rivenwyrm]

Here available options are rather light on infantry units, and I am at a lose on what she will need to be able to learn that aspect.

Of all the factions, she has to worry about infantry units the least. It's very easy to make a very good Legion list with no full unit in it at all. The key is beasts and fury management. If you can, get her two plastic beast kits, a Forsaken, and then magnetize them for all three options (or just Scythean/Ravagore, since you already have Carniveans). That will really fill out her lists well.

Also any advice I can relay to her in Cryx counters would be helpful as well.
Thank you for your time.

Legion, as a faction, matches up quite well against Cryx. It's faster, hits pretty hard, and is also very tricksy.

[Madhiggins]

probably the beast that gets the most use in Legion is the Sythian, so maybe get one of those. better yet, get the plastic kit and use magnets so you can switch out the arms and have the beast be a Sythian or a Ravagor or a Carn. speaking of Ravagors, they're a really good model to fit into certain lists too. as for infantry, get some swordsmen. they hit hard, are accurate, and their def of 14 does a pretty good job of tying up certain heavies. an average heavy with mat 6 needs an 8 to hit them, so he's pretty much having to boost his to hits to take them out and if he's boosting then he's not buying extra attacks.

and for cryx counters, a solid eLylth list is an absolute juggernaut against cryx. two ravagores, one nephilim bolt thrower is the core of the list and just puts the absolute smack down on almost every cryx list.

[Belthazar1113]

legion infantry isn't terrible, but we dont need much of it. striders that someone mentioned are great if you want some ranged options but if you are looking for something more traditional then the two good options are legionairs and hex hunters. legos stand in the way and protect beasts, and hex hunters are melle fighters that will actually get to the fight and have some really fun interations with the hexbolt.

However i also think that whatever unit you end up going, a good option is to also include the spawning pot. since it makes legion have a semi attrition game. i would say that with tat list if you grab hex hunters you are well in place to expand into bethany for another list, if you pick up swordsmen meh, if you pick up leggos you can use them all over the place, ethags, pthags, just about everyone can find use for that particular tarpit.

tell your girl goodluck and welcome to the legion.

[granor]

Heavy: Angelius
Heavy: Ravagore
Heavy: Scythean

Get these guys. (I have them listed in the order I would purchase and paint them) This will help you learn the faction better.

[Serberk]

i'd leave the angelius for last since it's a lil more tricky than ravagore and scythean to use, also angelii aren't that widespread (lockwise) as the scythean and ravagore. Also almost every list she'll play will include either a ravagore or a scythean independently than wich lock she chooses to play (ok at 35 dual angelii with saeryn works but that's the only list i'd take them over the other two beasts)

[Noble_dead]

Thank you for all this useful information it will be a big help.

I think I will go with the Legions as the next perspective buy. While I now know that LOE is more warbeast centric, I still would like to get her used to the idea of Infantry in the early stages. Now I just have to talk her into a paint scheme that dosent clash. :S

Again thank you all, and chances are I'll be popping in once and a while to get advice and info from you all.

[Ordrek]

What Granor said, but add Typhon to the list as well. I don't think there is anything in the game that compares to Typhon's triple spray. He is also great in melee, but I find I rarely use it over hitting multiple targets with the sprays.

Also, I wouldn't shy away from somewhat more complicated units/beasts just because they are slightly more complex (this isn't rocket surgery after all). Using them will improve over time and get her thinking about the possibilities.

For instance, you may play your first game with Anglius and never really realize it has a ranged weapon with a significant threat range. Then when you use it, you'll start to remember it does critical fire. Then you'll remember Overtake and start thinking about positioning to maximize the Angels ability to dig through a unit. It comes in pieces over several games and being repeatedly exposed to the model's rules. Once you do that with a few models, you can see the potential of other unfamiliar models more easily.

[Serberk]

well more than shy away i suggested that for starting it would be better to have the more basic tools, it's easier to understand how a mace works than to use a swiss army knife to the fullest no?

[Noble_dead]

well more than shy away i suggested that for starting it would be better to have the more basic tools, it's easier to understand how a mace works than to use a swiss army knife to the fullest no?

I am all for teaching her complex ideals, she can knock me about a chessboard so she has potential. I know she will want those warbeasts especially since she makes squee like actions when she first saw the typhon. Its why I am asking advice on an infantry unit to cement basics of all aspects of an army before she starts face stomping me with her ability to ignore stealth and cloud effects.

While I gather legion is more warbeast centric, I still feel learning the basics with an infantry in tandem with warbeasts is needed at this point.

[Serberk]

To be honest our infantry is more leaning to being just support to our battlegroup, what she will have to learn is to remember all the rules we ignore, also it's easy to play without angelii, rather hard without ravagores and scytheans. Typhon is a great beast, she will love it with pLylyth and pVayl =)

[Noble_dead]

Okay so I was out in town and ended up at the local store ended up buying a full hex hunter unit and an angelius. As a suprise, don't tell her and thanks for the input.