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    From Wargames Con by way of Muse on Minis:


    The Archangel has a P+S 19 Bite attack.
    Her Bite attack has the special ability Consume (not critical).
    She can make Ride By attacks.

    The Woldwrath?s animus reads something like the following:
    RNG:Self Cost:2
    Druid?s Wrath- Friendly faction models gain boosted magic attack rolls when targeting enemy models within 10? of this model.

    The Mammoth?s Gun is
    RNG 10
    PoW 15
    AoE 4
    RoF 3

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    Wow, pure awesome

    I play Khador, Minions, and soon to be Convergence of Cyriss.

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    love the idea of Archangel swooping in, eating things and flying off. Needs some kind of castle battlefield so he can grab defenders off the ramparts.

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    Now skorne has some real shooty power, wow. Snipe and Black Spot on that gun...the horror.

    Conversely, amazing support animi on wold wrath. Consume makes alot of sense, I can imagine a Skyrim dragon finisher would look exactly like that.

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    Interesting. If true (Woldwrath Animus) it is a boon to Geomancer Models, Druids (different types) primarily and perhaps the Warlock. That seems like a very niche Animus. I'll have to think about it awhile, and see the final wording of course to see what I think.

    Hrm. If true, Druids with their Push/Pull have vastly increased their odds of Knockdown.
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    Thats hilarous, ten seconds before Bak posted I was talking online in response to a Circle playing friend saying 'The woldwrath animus alone makes me think the spoilers are false because its so amazing.'

    Me: " im just waiting for circle folks to start talking about how **** it is and niche ^^"

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    Interesting Animus. Would it work on Animus and Geomancy too? Very cool.
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    How the hell does Skorne have better Guns on its colossal then Khador? Well the range is Kinda poor. But still!

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    It is a niche animus... its niche is the Circle Orboros!

    We have more magic attacks than any other faction and routinely take more than we have ranged.

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    Well. I am both glad and sad to see that the other Gargantuans seem a bit better than the Mountain King. A lot more sweet tech on the main attacks anyway.

    Always on Consume is a very neat ability - lets you gobble up the book or lesser warlocks or even the occasion shredder.
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    The Archangel seems interesting - I wonder if it will be fast enough to take much advantage of ride by attacks - perhaps SPD 7?
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    Baldur says 'yes please' to that Animus. Heck, any of the Kreugers say 'yes please' to it as well. Cassius loves him some boosted hellmouths (and the huge base to hide the tree behind) and if you ever wanted to run lots of druids, this is your chance.

    Makes me wonder if we'll finally see the Druid character unit for Circle in this book as well.

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    The Mammoth Gun certainly puts the Mountain King spray into perspective. The AoE itself is good, but RoF 3 is killer.

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    Let the record reflect that SteakAndSpirits successfully identified Ride-By-Attacks as an element of the Archangel.

    That's going to be absolutely nuts on it's Sprays!

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    Good to know that every other gargantuan seems better than the MK with one spoiler each. Yay?
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    A ROF 3 gun on a beast which produces its own fury looks pretty crazy good. The Wold Wrath animus also comes across as pretty freaking awesome. The POW 19 is a bit lower than what we've seen so far, and Consume is neat but not that big a deal on an attack that's just going to kill most small base models anyway. Ride by Attack could be pretty crazy though, especially if it has a decent SPD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machine007 View Post
    Good to know that every other gargantuan seems better than the MK with one spoiler each. Yay?
    Not so much better necessarily, we need to see the whole card for that. Adding unique elements to the faction while giving more options? Yeah, even with just the one rule spoiled they are already up on the MtK as far as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastspartacus View Post
    Me: " im just waiting for circle folks to start talking about how **** it is and niche ^^"

    Doom prophet!
    I don't think it is bad. I just think it would be a rather narrow Animus. It would supercharge spell slinging Warlocks, particularly those who use Woldwardens. A Stormwrath list would allow a Woldwarden backed up by this Animus to hit a DEF-17 on average dice, boost damage, and still utilize Undergrowth (or just keep Fury cost low). This isn't a huge benefit since most people using a Woldwarden thus would simply boost to hit and damage, but every little bit is nice.

    It is Druids that gain the biggest leap. They are now hitting DEF-17 on average dice with a huge chance of knockdown, particularly when you factor in the number of push/pull shots allowed by the unit. The Warlock gains a bit too, of course but that will always be harder to implement properly. I suspect there has to be more to the wording.

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    Wow, the mammoth's gun is a better version of the bombers (-1POW but +2"RNG and +1ROF). And it's in a faction that is able to support it's shooting quiet well (farstrike, guidance). If it has 2 POW19 melee attacks, it should be easily worth it's points, assuming it doesn't cost more than 20 points.
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    *looks at the Mammoth*

    Can Retribution get an Extoller now please..?

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    *looks at the Mammoth*

    Can Retribution get an Extoller now please..?

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    Honestly if we saw those spoilers along with a spoiler for MK's Whelp shedding ability we'd think they were all awesome, have to see the rest of the card before we really get a sense for how they stack up.

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    Mammoth sounds like a pretty good shooting platform, cautiously optimistic...

    I pretty much assume any beast like that is going to be at least decent in melee, and Skorne can buff that if need be. So, I don't really care what its melee POW is, that's just not a thing Skorne worry much about. Mainly I want to know the RAT, the animus, and whether I can get one of these things at Gencon or not...
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    The more I look at the mammoth the more im just feeling faction bleed.

    There are two kinds of complaints:

    "The thing our faction is supposed to be good at it isn't"

    Thats bad and needs immediate fixing.

    "The thing that our faction is bad at needs fixing"

    Is wrong. I get maybe giving Skorne a ranged caster, but a light with an animus is too much.

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    After the MK I expect these to have mat 5 rat 4.

    I'm pretty jelly of the Woldwrath animus. Cassius might actually see play now that the tree can be hidden, and his offensive spam is super easy to hit.

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    P+S of 19 with consume seems like a waste of an ability. Other than those heavy Menoth infantry, what other infantry in the entire game would not die to the P+S 19 attack? Unless it has claw attacks that have the same ability that have a lower P+S...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HellecticMojo View Post
    After the MK I expect these to have mat 5 rat 4.

    I'm pretty jelly of the Woldwrath animus. Cassius might actually see play now that the tree can be hidden, and his offensive spam is super easy to hit.
    His feat with Druids, any crit with in the Tree's CMD is an auto kill to single wound infantry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarcasterKramer View Post
    P+S of 19 with consume seems like a waste of an ability. Other than those heavy Menoth infantry, what other infantry in the entire game would not die to the P+S 19 attack? Unless it has claw attacks that have the same ability that have a lower P+S...
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    Journey man with arcane shield, pstrykers feat and maybe 1-2 focus

    and models under mcbains feat

    harbingers infantry

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    Thoughts...

    I still expect Archangel to have a nasty ranged attack.
    Three 4 inch POW 15 AOEs is pretty nasty.
    Pureblood can use his animus to make his spray attacks magical. He's going to love the Woldwrath. So will the Blackclad Wayfarer sprays and of course the Druids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakemono View Post
    It is Druids that gain the biggest leap...
    Druids? Hell no.

    It makes the Blackclad Wayfarer absolutely terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathPasta View Post
    The more I look at the mammoth the more im just feeling faction bleed.

    There are two kinds of complaints:

    "The thing our faction is supposed to be good at it isn't"



    Thats bad and needs immediate fixing.

    "The thing that our faction is bad at needs fixing"

    Is wrong. I get maybe giving Skorne a ranged caster, but a light with an animus is too much.

    Yeah, there is something off about the Mammoth. These have to be early versions of the rules, because that gun screams Khador or Mercs; not Skorne. When I think of the term "centerpiece", it usually means it plays toward everything around it. The Stormwall is a great example of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khador247 View Post
    Pureblood can use his animus to make his spray attacks magical. He's going to love the Woldwrath.
    I thought magical weapon =/= magical attack? Don't have the card in front of me, so apologies if I remember his animus incorrectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khador247 View Post
    Pureblood can use his animus to make his spray attacks magical. He's going to love the Woldwrath. So will the Blackclad Wayfarer sprays and of course the Druids.
    Magical Ranged attacks are not the same as Magic Attacks (otherwise Rahn's feat plus jacks would be a lot nastier!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khador247 View Post
    Thoughts...

    I still expect Archangel to have a nasty ranged attack.
    Three 4 inch POW 15 AOEs is pretty nasty.
    Pureblood can use his animus to make his spray attacks magical. He's going to love the Woldwrath. So will the Blackclad Wayfarer sprays and of course the Druids.
    Making the attack a magic weapon doesn't make the ranged attack a magic attack.


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    Consume devours Holy Zealots under Mini-feat.

    I believe it also prevents Exemplar Errant shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khador247 View Post
    Pureblood can use his animus to make his spray attacks magical. He's going to love the Woldwrath. So will the Blackclad Wayfarer sprays and of course the Druids.
    Purebloods animus does not make it a magical attack. Its a ranged attack with the magic weapon icon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathPasta View Post
    How the hell does Skorne have better Guns on its colossal then Khador? Well the range is Kinda poor. But still!
    Thinking about it, my guess is that Privateer feels that multiple lower-POW AOEs equate roughly to one high-POW AOE. The Mammoth's 3 POW 15 AOE 4 shots have RNG 10, the same as Hyperion's 1 POW 18 AOE 5. The Conquest, meanwhile, can put out one AOE 4 (I can't remember the POW off-hand), and 4 more AOE 3s, which may each be considered similar to 2 additional AOE 4s...

    Of course, this is predicated on my theory that the Gargantuans won't have the secondary guns that the Colossals have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khador247 View Post
    I still expect Archangel to have a nasty ranged attack.
    I'm expecting the Archangel's ranged attack to be somewhat vanilla -- either a stock POW 14 SP10 with Continuous fire, or possibly an AOE 4 RNG 10-12 with Continuous Fire, or something. The cool feature is likely going to be its ability to do Ride-By attacks with it, although I suppose it could potentially produce a Scather effect with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEJKaya View Post
    Purebloods animus does not make it a magical attack. Its a ranged attack with the magic weapon icon.
    Well poop. :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncymischa View Post
    Thinking about it, my guess is that Privateer feels that multiple lower-POW AOEs equate roughly to one high-POW AOE. The Mammoth's 3 POW 15 AOE 4 shots have RNG 10, the same as Hyperion's 1 POW 18 AOE 5. The Conquest, meanwhile, can put out one AOE 4 (I can't remember the POW off-hand), and 4 more AOE 3s, which may each be considered similar to 2 additional AOE 4s...

    Of course, this is predicated on my theory that the Gargantuans won't have the secondary guns that the Colossals have.
    Conquests main gun is the same all around as one shot of the Mammoths with the addition of Crit Dev.

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