Hey there Cygnar forum, recently I made the mistake of starting cygnar as my first warmachine faction against a friend who plays Harbinger of menoth. I just can't see any way to even close enough to kill Harbinger without having my entire army slaughtered by his Vanquishers and their damn flame belcher. 10 focus and a massive control range? Explain to me how this is fair? And don't say she is fragile, she has more than enough focus to camp some and a big enough control range to sit in terrain. As if that wasn't enough, she gets Awe for a effective 2+ to defense. Upkeeps spells like arcane shield? Purification lol.
Any infantry advancing across the field, even with cover or concealment get either killed by the massive 4 inch aoe that is apparently even more accurate than cygnar thanks to choir. It doesn't even matter if I take cover with Foxhole because the AUTO will just kill them next turn! Everyone tells me to get stormblades so I can kill heavy jacks, but at armor 15 I honestly doubt they will even make it across the field even spread out and arcane shielded.
The only solution I can think of is to field more jacks that are basically inferior in every way compared to choired menoth jacks.
Our last game was the worst. His vanquishers basically sat in cover with a Vassal and turtled the whole game, while I missed the majority of siege's boosted attack shots.
ATGM and black 13th were useless...missing the majority of shots against cover, while Harby's feat just stopped them from advancing, letting the Vanquishers lolauto gun get in range. Thunderbolt shots are cute, but sorry pushing back something isnt the same as actually killing it. Black 13th managed to kill the choir then died afterward to Harby's lolauto hit Cataclysm. Defense 20 harbinger while in cover with means I never even got a chance to scratch her....
Ironclad lost his movement and could not engage them before getting bogged down by infantry. Maybe he would have made a difference, but with the infantry tarpit I doubt it.
Defender managed a lucky kill shot against one Vanquisher though....but by then Harbinger was able to end the game with a Cataclysm to siege's face.
This is what I have now.
Siege / Epic haley /Strykers(I swap around a bit)
Full Precursor Knights
Gorman De Wulfe
I used to think this faction was actually competitive and that we played at most with a small disadvantage against other factions.....Boy was I wrong.
The only thing keeping me from switching out now is the fact that I have spent almost 200 bucks on this damn faction.