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    Default Can the Machine Wraith Machine Meld with a Colllosal?

    As above, can the Machine Wraith Machine Meld with a Colllosal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgar View Post
    As above, can the Machine Wraith Machine Meld with a Colllosal?
    I'm not sure if you can do the meld itself, since there's no rule on the colossi that prevent it. However, it will do you no good because you cannot take control an opponent's colossal.
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    Nope. Cant be disrupted, knocked down, moved, taken over, telekinesis used on it and a few other things.

    As far as I'm aware though, can be blinded, death chilled and shadowbound to lock it down.
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    No, 10 Characters.


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    there is a limit on what we can really deal with and having that many is crazy!
    Well thats a whole different story. all i have for that is saeryn and even then it might be too much to chew through. pretty funny chat though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antereas View Post
    Nope. Cant be disrupted, knocked down, moved, taken over, telekinesis used on it and a few other things.

    As far as I'm aware though, can be blinded, death chilled and shadowbound to lock it down.
    Can also be Void Locked, currently, by Hypnos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctjud View Post
    No, 10 Characters.
    Well, I'd have to check the exact wording, but I think the MW COULD merge with it, but would just be stuck and unable to control it afterwards. So, all in all, kind of pointless.
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    Not pointless... safe. You can't shoot at it while it's inside and it can exit on it's own maintenance phase. I can't think of anywhere safer to be, and it has a huge area in which it can emerge on the following round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamoron View Post
    Not pointless... safe. You can't shoot at it while it's inside and it can exit on it's own maintenance phase. I can't think of anywhere safer to be, and it has a huge area in which it can emerge on the following round.
    I was kind of thinking the same thing, and the posibilities that it could be used for.
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    I know this is off topic but figured I would post it up anyways............

    Force hammer (sorta) says: Instead of suffering a normal damage roll, a non-incorporeal model force hammer hits is slammed d6" away from the spell's point of origin irregardless of base size.

    How does force hammer affect a colossal? Would a Colossal (besides Kraken) hit with Frce Hmmr be slammed d6"?

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    Dont think so, pretty sure its worded like "cannot be moved/placed outside of activation"
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    Asked the question on the rules forum, got two responses saying "no", then it got locked without infernal post.

    http://privateerpressforums.com/show...=1#post1509233

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamoron View Post
    Not pointless... safe. You can't shoot at it while it's inside and it can exit on it's own maintenance phase. I can't think of anywhere safer to be, and it has a huge area in which it can emerge on the following round.
    . . . and once in awhile you find a gem like this in the forums.

    *-evil plans forming around this now. bwa-ha-ha-ha!

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    Colossals can't be controled by enemies for any reason. Look in the Colossals special rules for that.
    So no controlling through the Machine Wraith.
    And Haley2 can't dominate them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderBite View Post
    . . . and once in awhile you find a gem like this in the forums.

    *-evil plans forming around this now. bwa-ha-ha-ha!
    Assuming it works, which I don't think it will (because that would be more trouble than just saying no). It would be pretty darn funny though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
    Dont think so, pretty sure its worded like "cannot be moved/placed outside of activation"
    Can't be moved outside of it's own "movement". So even things like Overtake or Goad won't work on them.
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    juckto's thread/post seems to confirm that it's a 'no'. Two answers that say 'no' and then followed by a locked thread.
    Infernals don't always have to post a response, if they they feel the answer is there they lock the thread...<---this accurate? I'm not 100% on this, but that's what I think it is.


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    there is a limit on what we can really deal with and having that many is crazy!
    Well thats a whole different story. all i have for that is saeryn and even then it might be too much to chew through. pretty funny chat though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctjud View Post
    juckto's thread/post seems to confirm that it's a 'no'. Two answers that say 'no' and then followed by a locked thread.
    Infernals don't always have to post a response, if they they feel the answer is there they lock the thread...<---this accurate? I'm not 100% on this, but that's what I think it is.
    That's the official policy:
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    I know my response wasn't very diplomatic, but having the machine wraith get in a model that it doesn't control fails a lot of simple plausibility tests when you look at how the rest of the Machine Meld rules would work in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamoron View Post
    Assuming it works, which I don't think it will (because that would be more trouble than just saying no). It would be pretty darn funny though
    Interesting thought. I would be very curious if that is legal to do. You could really cause some issues if you can.

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    would be hilarious to contest a point that with a MW inside their colossal

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    Wraith is not on the board... therefore can't control anything... and can't take it over to be 'your' model.
    It's safe to say: No...you can't even get in.


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    there is a limit on what we can really deal with and having that many is crazy!
    Well thats a whole different story. all i have for that is saeryn and even then it might be too much to chew through. pretty funny chat though

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