Does anyone know the answer to this?

[Philoclass]

I see the other factions are getting another cavalry unit, so my question is are we getting a 2nd one as well?

[Dubstep]

Prob not for a while, we have been behind in releases so far and will prob stay behind for a long time.

[Lord Sessadore]

There's been no news about a new cav unit for us. During that slideshow the Retribution spoiler was the art for what looks like a melee mage hunter unit. Not sure if that means we aren't getting new cav, or if we're getting both.

I don't see a reason why they couldn't do new cav for Ret though, unless they think there's other stuff we need more. We may be behind on releases, but every new release we get a similar or greater amount of things.

[Night Haunter]

No definite information on that yet. But I for one would love to see another cav unit. My personal hopes are for a light cav unit or a dragoon unit sometime, but only time will tell.

[Rogue Sun]

I believe it was stated somewhere in the chaos that was Lock and Load that all WM factions will be getting a 2nd cavalry unit in the next book.

Honestly, I'm still waiting on the model that makes our heavy cav worth taking...

[FearLord]

I believe it was stated somewhere in the chaos that was Lock and Load that all WM factions will be getting a 2nd cavalry unit in the next book.

Honestly, I'm still waiting on the model that makes our heavy cav worth taking...

From what people have been doing with his theme list, It looks like Vyros 2 is that model...

[Rogue Sun]

Yes and no. They're worth taking purely to jam into the opponent's face, but then again their best asset as always been being somewhat survivable. I'm waiting for a Markov-esque model that has Elite Cadre Destors and gives them something to actually be worth fielding for some offensive power.

[AJ the Ronin]

As far as I'm aware there was no mention of another cav unit for Ret. I have read that PP staff said that everyone will get one and that beside what wad shown mercs and protectorate will also get one. Since there is people that don't consider us part of the game I would be surprised that they did said that mercs and protectorate will get one too and under the spoiler of all the factions (main 4 and mercs) was born from there.

[absent]

Prob not for a while, we have been behind in releases so far and will prob stay behind for a long time.

Yeah we didn't get our battle engine with the rest, nor our colossal, life is pretty unfair sometimes.

[Lanz]

When the main factions got their first cavalry, Mercs got theirs one book afterwards. If Mercs aren't getting their second cavalry unit in the next cycle too, I suspect Ret and Mercs might get their second cavalry unit in the book after that.

[absent]

Mercs are going to get epic cylena and the nyss hunters on ulk or a brigand unit of some type on horse. Ret will get either a housegaurd or mage hunter cav unit. If the next book is filling out cav choices, expect it to fill out cav choices.

[Murkhadh]

Everyone with heavy cav is supposed. To get light cav and vice versa

[Lanz]

Everyone with heavy cav is supposed. To get light cav and vice versa

Has PP actually said that?

Everyone getting cav seems to be a liklihood, and the lack of info on new ret and merc cav isn't necessarily that big a deal because we haven't heard about most of the other factions too.

But at the same time, it's entirely possible that it won't happen that way.

[AJ the Ronin]

Mercs are going to get epic cylena and the nyss hunters on ulk or a brigand unit of some type on horse. Ret will get either a housegaurd or mage hunter cav unit. If the next book is filling out cav choices, expect it to fill out cav choices.

Epic Cylena with partisan please?

[absent]

That would be... Epic.

[Mastershake]

Epic Cylena with partisan please?

I can't imagine any fluff reason why some Nyss refugees of all individuals would suddenly start working alongside the Retribution in the next book...oh wait, I think there's a refrigerator somewhere of vague importance to them.

Wouldn't suprise me if Ret's new Cav were mounted Nyss as Partisans and they got the razorblades as their new unit. Seems like a good way to speed up faction expansion.

[AJ the Ronin]

I can't imagine any fluff reason why some Nyss refugees of all individuals would suddenly start working alongside the Retribution in the next book...oh wait, I think there's a refrigerator somewhere of vague importance to them.

Wouldn't suprise me if Ret's new Cav were mounted Nyss as Partisans and they got the razorblades as their new unit. Seems like a good way to speed up faction expansion.

That is what I was thinking. Hopefully PP though about it.

[Murkhadh]

I can't imagine any fluff reason why some Nyss refugees of all individuals would suddenly start working alongside the Retribution in the next book...oh wait, I think there's a refrigerator somewhere of vague importance to them.

Wouldn't suprise me if Ret's new Cav were mounted Nyss as Partisans and they got the razorblades as their new unit. Seems like a good way to speed up faction expansion.

Raptors with CRA

[Mastershake]

Raptors with CRA

Or just Raptors as faction models. Those legion players shouldn't get to have all te fun playing reindeer games...budum tish.

[Murkhadh]

Or just Raptors as faction models. Those legion players shouldn't get to have all te fun playing reindeer games...budum tish.

I was thinking they will never give us a support solo like Anyssa so cra would help make up for it some.

[absent]

CRA instead of poison, def 15 arm 13 instead of 14/15, They'd be similar but different.

[Rogue Sun]

For 10 points I wouldn't take a Raptor unit without Poison. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I'd rather use Riflemen with the UA.

Keep poison and I'd gladly use them.

[absent]

What you personally would take or not has no bearing on if that is what ret is getting. PP knows if they make a great model it'll sell. They aren't going to just carbon copy over raptors into ret

[Wutwut]

Epic Cylena with partisan please?

*drool

Yes please, also it would make a lot of sense if they carry through the Nyssor rescue (and the fact that Eyriss is a blaber mouth with other human hating elves and druids).

[Chip]

For 10 points I wouldn't take a Raptor unit without Poison. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I'd rather use Riflemen with the UA.

Keep poison and I'd gladly use them.

But... Riflemen rock. Why would you not believe you would say that?

I'm hoping for Mage Hunter Light Cavalry. The Retribution of Scyrah's army could do with more actual members of the Retribution in it...

[joelker41]

I kind of like that Iosans and Nyss are at arms length fluff and faction wise. Makes each unique.

If the start adding a bunch of Nyss in we will be the 'oh you have pointy ears' faction instead of a unique angry elven force.

[AJ the Ronin]

But... Riflemen rock. Why would you not believe you would say that?

I'm hoping for Mage Hunter Light Cavalry. The Retribution of Scyrah's army could do with more actual members of the Retribution in it...

I agree with this. Don't get me wrong, I like the dawnguards, battle mages and houseguards.

But is weird that there is only one mage hunter unit on the faction.

[PG_Dawnlord Ed]

I kind of like that Iosans and Nyss are at arms length fluff and faction wise. Makes each unique.

If the start adding a bunch of Nyss in we will be the 'oh you have pointy ears' faction instead of a unique angry elven force.

I dunno. The Nyss have just as much reason to angry as the Iosians. And they're cousins. It seems to make sense fluff-wise for the family to come together as we march into the End of Days.

[joelker41]

I dunno. The Nyss have just as much reason to angry as the Iosians. And they're cousins. It seems to make sense fluff-wise for the family to come together as we march into the End of Days.

Well being angry doesn't really constitute a solid foundation for an alliance IMO.

Being cousin races and angry at humans/dragons is a commonality so it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

I'm not saying I am opposed, just that I like the seperation.

[Lord Sessadore]

Not to mention that if the Retribution can secure Nyssor in Ios, you pretty much have your catalyst to rejoin the Nyss and Iosans already.

[PG_Dawnlord Ed]

Well being angry doesn't really constitute a solid foundation for an alliance IMO.

Being cousin races and angry at humans/dragons is a commonality so it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

I'm not saying I am opposed, just that I like the seperation.

That's true. But they aren't just angry. Both the Nyss and Iosians are facing apocalypse and extinction. Both the Nyss and Iosians believe their gods were betrayed and are upset about it. Both the Nyss and Iosians are not fans of Everblight. Both the Nyss and Iosians revere Nyssor (who is now 50% of remaining elf gods).

Let's face it, if the Nyss and the Iosians don't have enough in common to throw their lot in together for a last stand, then who does?

[NEoJoe]

I'm hoping for Mage Hunter Light Cavalry. The Retribution of Scyrah's army could do with more actual members of the Retribution in it...

Haha. Nope

I love how the sneaky guys have been doing this stuff for a long time, then suddenly this strict and organized military starts waving it's junk around and taking over the show. And battlemages from a house with aspirations to become a great military house. And random houseguard from everywhere. And Random assassins with giant rifles. And Evil Voodoo house with space bending magical robots that no one likes. Now you've this big giant cluster**** of guys all trying to get along/outdo each other with grudging respect being earned on both sides here and there. Let's not get more mage hunters, lets' introduce more crap! Issyan joins the Retribution with it's light cav and tensions further increase! Long lost elven brethren lend their crude-yet-effective scouting techniques and the others scoff!

Screw Scyrah. It's all about political favor.

I want to field like nine factions in my faction.

[Wutwut]

Well being angry doesn't really constitute a solid foundation for an alliance IMO.

Being cousin races and angry at humans/dragons is a commonality so it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

I'm not saying I am opposed, just that I like the seperation.

Also remember that Seekers are technicly part of the Iosan effort to deal with their "little problem". If the Seekers start getting units/characters outside of the merc faction (and they are ALL retri partisans) why not Nyss? Heck if they started including Vyre a long lost bunch of cousin elfs that did nothing to piss them off should be BFF material!

(and might just add some sort of variety outlet without moving too much outside the explanable fluff since most armies tend to have multiple races working toward a common goal)

On a similar note, think that the whole Skorne thing will have some sort of effect in explaining new units/tactics outside the multitool jacks, etc?

[PG_Dawnlord Ed]

On a similar note, think that the whole Skorne thing will have some sort of effect in explaining new units/tactics outside the multitool jacks, etc?

Almost certainly. It's a storytelling device that will help the writers to show off more of the Iosian military.

[AJ the Ronin]

Funny thing is the Retribution has not being very good at eradicating human magic from Craen but they did the Seeker job way better than the Seekers themselves since, well, they *did* found one of the missing gods.

Hope the Seekers see the advantage of joining a faction that manage to accomplish what was their agenda.

[FearLord]

The Retribution of Scyrah's army could do with more actual members of the Retribution in it...

To be fair, the new Razor Blade wielding unit that seems to be coming with Eiryss 3 look to be Mage Hunters of a kind...

[Chip]

To be fair, the new Razor Blade wielding unit that seems to be coming with Eiryss 3 look to be Mage Hunters of a kind...

Yeah, but that's still 2 units in the entire army, making them outnumbered (choice-wise) by the Houseguard and Dawnguard in what is, at the end of the day, THEIR faction! Hell, I'm even saying this as a Houseguard player - Mage Hunters deserve more coverage in their own army, and some light cavalry outriders/skirmishers would be a cool way of doing it.

Haha. Nope

I love how the sneaky guys have been doing this stuff for a long time, then suddenly this strict and organized military starts waving it's junk around and taking over the show. And battlemages from a house with aspirations to become a great military house. And random houseguard from everywhere. And Random assassins with giant rifles. And Evil Voodoo house with space bending magical robots that no one likes. Now you've this big giant cluster**** of guys all trying to get along/outdo each other with grudging respect being earned on both sides here and there. Let's not get more mage hunters, lets' introduce more crap! Issyan joins the Retribution with it's light cav and tensions further increase! Long lost elven brethren lend their crude-yet-effective scouting techniques and the others scoff!

Screw Scyrah. It's all about political favor.

I want to field like nine factions in my faction.

While I do agree that this IS a cool part of the Retribution, I do have to wonder if it may be slightly cooler/easier to have a series of UAs and WAs for the Houseguard. Everyone apart from the Dawnguard has BASICALLY the same soldiers, but adding in, say, a character UA for a unit of Stormfall Archers that makes them a member of the house that specialises in bows* would allow that without the need for a whole new unit. The same with adding in a sword-wielding WA for the Halberdiers that lets them be even more offensive and a member of the one that is famed for their swordsmen*. The only House that really needs a new unit is Issyen, 'cos they're the cavalry house, and even then I think they'd be cooler as a group of Dragoon solos**.

*I haven't got the world guide on me, so I don't know the names...
**Possibly because I want to re-enact the Seven Samurai with elves.

[Mastershake]

Funny thing is the Retribution has not being very good at eradicating human magic from Craen but they did the Seeker job way better than the Seekers themselves since, well, they *did* found one of the missing gods.

Hope the Seekers see the advantage of joining a faction that manage to accomplish what was their agenda.

Wouldn't mind seeing eAiyana as a Ret caster...

[joelker41]

Wouldn't mind seeing eAiyana as a Ret caster...

This would be cool. Holt as a built in attachment?

[Mastershake]

This would be cool. Holt as a built in attachment?

Or a ghost sniper's hood ornament, I could care less about Holt. I think it would be really interesting to see what they would do with a caster like that, maybe a Vayl-type.