What do you think the New Farrow warlock will have?

[deadboytat2]

after reading the Blindwater Trog thread I decided to start this one because well Im more interested in the farrow!

Ok So We do not even have a name as far as I know?

Anyways I hope to have a magical weapon at least P+S 13 with reach. With a some sort of magical shot similar to what Caliban dose for a ranged weapon.

Id Like to see

Quagmire ( Because its awesome! )
Death ward
dark guidance
soul fire
fog of war

These are my dream spells for him. I really really want a infantry buffer and some good buff spells. Also it would be cool to see another good fury stat like 7.

[Buster]

If I remember right we do have a name. I recall someone saying it was Midas.

I'd really like to see something like Adomnition or Snipe as possible spells.

[TheLoki]

Harvest is very thematic

[Hoyled]

Its alot harder thinking up apropriate Farrow stuff then it is for Blindwater. The casters are all over the place in terms of spells, with a mix of troop and beast support, along with the Good Doc who is a beast support specialist. So Ill assume that Midas is another mixed bag caster.

Spell List

Harvest (feels apropriate)
Breath of Corruption (or insert another aoe or offensive spell to go along with Harvest)
Hordes version of Dragon Slayer (for the pig who prefers to harvest his own warpwolf skulls)
Fortune (add other troop buff here, preferably mat or rat)

Really very random guess, and Im sure theres going to be a few interesting abilities that might outshine Midas's spell list

[TheLoki]

so far every pig caster has at least 2 beast support spells. Thats something to bank on at least.

[Pirrekurr]

I would love something liked Dark Guidance, but that is because I think that is one of my absolute favourite spells. But more than that I want something that ties in with his name; Midas.

I would love for a 1 pts solo Golden Farrow living statue with stats like a brigand or Bone Grinder that is an arc node and a construct. And then I would like for Midas to be able to create such statues with his "touch". For instance an attack spell or a melee weapon who turns enemy small base warriors into Golden Hogs when they get boxed. That would be cool.

[Barnaby]

I expect he'll have the ability to cast Dead Beast Animus, possibly from slain enemy beasts as well- similar to E Haley and her ability to cast enemy spells. If not that- Attuned Spirit for Farrow Animus.

Sunder Spirit is possible I suppose, ties into the Animus option. He'll almost certainly have some kind of speed boost for our War Hogs- it seems to be a common theme on our casters.

My dream list would include something like Abuse or Defenders Ward.

[PG_Duckboy]

Just think, he is ripping the spine out of a feral warpwolf, I would guess engine of destruction or something of the sorts.

[TheLoki]

Just think, he is ripping the spine out of a feral warpwolf, I would guess engine of destruction or something of the sorts.

That would be downright hype

[Irall]

Here my thought: I agree whit Barnaby, I am sure he will be able to cast dead beast animus, event the one of the enemies.That would be thematic since he base off of Bone Grinder.However,because of it,I really dont expect him to have a lot of spell.My guess it be buff spell like Carnivore.Meaby a animus blocking spell too(I am sure there was one,but,I cant remember it name...) also Engine of destruction would be AMAZING! Take that Reznik!.I also expect him to have 6-7 furry, whit the ability to gather corpse-soul token (he is going around whit a massive cauldren full of bone afther all).I dont believe he will have reach.From the picture, you could see he have some sort of short sword or cleave as a magical weapon and many little butcher knife around is belt.Multiple attack would be nice, meaby throwing knife? ((He could compete whit Doc in a contest!).Giving the fact all Farrow seem to be physicaly powerful (and Midas look very big),I think he will have Tough.

Background wise, I believe he a outcaste.Meaby a Bone Grinder that gone too far and was cast out because he was praying too muh on the other Farrow, using thier bone as ingredian for is spell.During that time, he would be hunting around the swamp and forest around the Farrow homelands , killing Warbeast, animal and anything else he can get is hand on,becaming massive and filled whit primal magical power, wich awaken is Warlock ability.Lord Carver would have somehow hear of this and personaly go meet him to recruit him into is conquering army. That would be a summary of if story I think^^

[Benejeseret]

Maybe straight up Bone Grinder

Confluence
Arcane Bolt

With some BG around could craft talisman for a 14" Bolt and with Confluence on top it's crazy accurate - and boostable. I would love some more range threats. Basically, if he can see you, you'e taking 3d6+11 damage.

I'mmmmm Firinggg maaaa Laaaazerrrrrr!!!!

[Benejeseret]

Also, we have access to two very aggressive feats and one denial feat. I'm hoping for another denial feat.

Gorging Trough: All farrow models in control range gain Tough. Corpse tokens can be spent to automatically pass Toughness checks.


This fits the whole farrow tenacity and difficulty to dislodge fluff, fits with corpse collection, and would be on par powerwise with Makeda's Walking Death, Kallus's Host of Angels, or Skarre's Fate Weave. Anything with RFP could ignore the feat as a hard counter (or, counter-counter).

Against many armies it would allow very aggressive play which favours Farrow style, getting Midas right up in their face with "near" immunity for feat turn.

[Feverdream]

Possibly Awakened Spirit. Casting Massacre or Lightning Strike for free? Yes.

I still can't shake this thought. I know he's a bone grinder, and it could just be him killing a Warpwolf that got in his way. But what if that Warpwolf spine IS his talisman, and that he hands out Feral Warpwolf warping effects? I really would love that.

[deadboytat2]

Alot of things to buff infantry would be nice.

[Azahul]

Harvest would be amazing, and I would rather like the guy to be a bit of a spell-slinger (really, Harvest plus any AOE spell would make me happy). Aside from that, I dunno. Being able to use the animii of dead friendly Warbeasts (friendly ones, I don't really like the idea of using enemy animii that much) would give a nice thematic tie-in with his fellow Bone Grinders. Oh, and Arcane Bolt. He should really have Arcane Bolt as a spell.

[Reemule]

I'd like Stormwall please. Or Windwall. Road to War would help. Carnage also.

[deadboytat2]

what other models have Harvest so I can look it up?

Or can someone direct me to the rules on it?

[TheLoki]

Morvahna has it

[Reemule]

Anything killed Slaughterhousers wouldn't trigger harvest. Not sure why you guys want that skornergy.

[ForceFields!!!]

From the limited picture i saw of Midas, I am guessing he is a badass Bone Grinder. I thinking he might have a nice elite cadre for them. 2 of our caster have nature abilites that just enhance our limited model spread. So why not a 3rd.

Gang or making them all leaders would be awesome

[TheLoki]

Anything killed Slaughterhousers wouldn't trigger harvest. Not sure why you guys want that skornergy.

Was just pointing out that its thematic.

[deadboytat2]

Thanks!

I doubt we would get regrowth and Harvest at the same time. We would most likely get one or the other and one with out the other is not as strong though still good. Who knows they gave us crippling grasp, Telekinesis and watcher so its possible. Id still rather have death ward and dark guidance though.

[PG_Devilsquid]

Tenacity? Please? Or a beast with it?

[PMAvers]

Elite Cadre: Bone Grinders would be nice, although what it'd exactly do would be up in the air.

[Fedora]

Hmm... Lets get some silliness on here.

Passives:
New Ability: Adds the animi of any beasts destroyed in his ctrl area to his spell list (So he keeps animi even from his own destroyed ones, and steals enemy animi)
Elite Cadre: Bone Grinders; Bone Grinder Troopers gain Magic Ability[5] and star-attack boneshaker.
Spirit Eater

Doctor's fury stat.
Feat: All friendly beasts currently in his control area gain the effects of all combined animi currently on his spell list (including selfs)

Spells:
Incite or Carnage
Agitation
Death Ward
Bone Shaker
Blood Mark

Blessed, Grievous, magical melee weapon.

[TheLoki]

Unearthly Rage
Starcrossed
Soothing Song
Dont care
dont care

If you dream.... dream big

[Benejeseret]

On that note:



Guided Fire - If he's a throwback to pre-arkadius times them he should boost pre-arkadius beasts. With 2/3rds of our beast with good ranged weapons this would be great

Pursuit - Keeps with the farrow theme of being masters of out of activation movement

Banishing Ward/Purification - would be nice to have some counter-options to buff or debuffs

Essence Blast - Someone with a giant bag of gore would make good on making his own troops explode.

[Space Donkey]

Guided Fire - If he's a throwback to pre-arkadius times them he should boost pre-arkadius beasts. With 2/3rds of our beast with good ranged weapons this would be great

The Road Hogs would become true Burninators.

[PG_Trevy the Great]

Maybe he'll be more of an infantry-supporting Warlock?
I mean, both Arky and Carver have a lot of Battlegroup-only abilities. I don't have much experience w/ S&D, but it seems as though they are a little more balanced but with a lean towards Warbeasts as well (Killing Ground, Goad, Pack Hunters, Watcher etc.).

[Benejeseret]

I haz a meme!

Ahem. But agreed, I would rather see a troop focused Warlock. We have Carver that is very balanced troop/beast. S&D is somewhat balanced, leaning toward beasts, and Arky is straight beasts. Maybe we'll get another non-Ark'ed beast to flesh out the tribal side of things.
* As an aside, as much as Midas looks Bone Grinder-like, he also has a very bandit-like took to his garb.

Midas is to gold, as banditry+gold is to....Rockbottom

Perhaps them some Rockbottom type infantry boosts and a very high command.

[PG_Devilsquid]

We're going about this all wrong! He's a bone grinder, he collects body parts!

Spells:
Eye of Menoth
Hand of Fate
Deadeye


Things of that nature!

[Azahul]

Anything killed Slaughterhousers wouldn't trigger harvest. Not sure why you guys want that skornergy.

It's easy enough to work around (don't use Slaughterhousers with Midas/don't use Slaughterhousers to kill enemy warrior models), and besides, most of the suggestions here involving corpse tokens/getting the animii of destroyed enemy warbeasts (all very common and thematic suggestions), would likewise not be triggered by Slaughterhousers. It's just about impossible to have any abilities that trigger on the death of a model that wouldn't have skornegy with Slaughterhousers, and yet that kind of ability suits a Bone Grinder Warlock very well.

Honestly, it's not a big deal to me if Midas doesn't have great synergy with Slaughterhousers. We don't have many options, but we can afford to have a Warlock that doesn't work well with one unit.

[deadboytat2]

Because his name is Midas Im betting his feat has something to do with making models stationary. That or a melee weapon that dose that Like a golden fist that makes people stationary on a hit or something of that nature. But Im hoping that its his feat that makes a bunch of models into stationary golden statues for a turn or something like that.

[Benejeseret]

It's easy enough to work around (don't use Slaughterhousers with Midas/don't use Slaughterhousers to kill enemy warrior models)

And yet his picture specifically has 2 Slaughterhousers lurking in the background. I don't personally feel the staff and developers just throw random stuff together in their art. I think they select what is included very, very carefully and that ultimately it means and/or hints at something.

To me, if there are SH in the pick it either means he has a special rule specifically getting around RFP or he does not collect anything from the dead. I could easily be wrong and they do throw together random elements.


I would not complain about a stationary effect if provided

[PG_Duckboy]

Engine of destruction, Banashing ward, Arcane Bolt, Befuddle.

Able to cast animus once per turn for free.
Elite Cadre: Bone grinders gain Fearless and Tough.

[HellecticMojo]

maybe he will have Attuned Spirit: Farrow warbeasts.

possibly finisher on his knife or dismember, seems appropriate.

Harvest
Deathmarch
Arcane Bolt
Superiority

[deadboytat2]

Able to cast animus once per turn for free.
Elite Cadre: Bone grinders gain Fearless and Tough.

I really like this!!

[OldIronEyes]

Attuned Spirit for Farrow Warbeasts would be good.
Would love to see some sort of Elite Cadre for Bonegrinders, even though they are phenomenal as is.
As far as his spells are concerned; I dunno, legitimate troop buffing? I look at the 'gator 'locks and I'm envious of Iron Flesh, Death Pact, Carnivore and Occultation. I'd like to see one beneficial troop upkeep spell, personally.

[Benejeseret]

Despite my own ravings I'm throwing in with a combination of PG_Duckboy, and HellecticMojo and others.

An Engine of Destruction able to Befuddle and draw in enemy Warbeasts to be charged and personally slaughtered with Dismember (or Dismember and Finisher), thrown in a cooking pot, and used to charge up further abilities.

Hmmm, that wicked Dagger could have Vampiric Reaving. This would fit perfectly with the pic and the above abilities. He could be an expert Warbeast killer who steals Fury. This is where my bets are now going in terms of the imagery of drawing out the warpwolf's power/energy.

And having more Fearless and Tough troops would always be great and the free animus would be gravy.

I suspect we would see something already done before (such as Vampiric Reaping) rather than an entirely new mechanic involving collecting enemy animi.

[RocketSurgeon]

The Midas of myth liked to hang with satyrs. I wouldn't mind an alternate theme list that allowed him to field them.