35 Point Krueger Starter List Ideas

[Malal8]

Hey there guys

Ok so I am a brand new player with no personal experience in this game. I have read the "basic rules", watched some youtube tutorials/batreps and I basically spent yesterday studying threads, tacticas and the fabulously informative site battlecollege. So while I have no real life experience I feel like I to some extent understand this faction enough to start building lists.

So I really like Krueger. I like his ability to push/pull other people, is tricky to use/master, and is more oriented to objective wins rather than beatstick/assassination based. The models that seem to be no brainers from what I have read are as follows. Correct me if I am off anywhere:

1) He wants a Geo guy (warden or Meglinith)
2) He wants a druid of orboros unit (omg these guys look like a tool box of fun!)
3) Shifting stones! (seems like 2 is superior)

List 1 (Probably not enough punch)

Krueger (+5)
Megalith (11)
Wold Guardian (9)
Wold Watcher (5)
Druids of Orboros (7)
2 x Shifting Stones (4)
2 x Keeper (2)
Blackclad Wayfarer (2)


List 2 (Light on support and still no big punch)

Krueger (+5)
Megalith (11)
Wold Guardian (9)
Wold Warden (9)
Druids of Orboros (7)
Shifting Stones (2)
Blackclad Wayfarer (2)


List 3 (I think I found the sweet spot here)

Krueger (+5)
Megalith (11)
Warp Wolf (9)
Gorax (4)
Druids of Orboros (7)
Overseer (2)
2 x Shifting Stones (4)
1 x Keeper (1)
Blackclad Wayfarer (2)


I do enjoy this warlocks strategy as stated above and the inclusion of duids, 2 x stones, wayfarerer seem to be really strong and I struggle to see better support choices. My biggest quarrels have been with choosing beasts. I like the idea of wolds but I keep reading that they do not provide much killing power and I think that is going to just become overly frustrating once I start to get better. I think I may just sub in a Guardian to "count as" my geo wold because he is the only real wold who wows me.

If I had to guess I think List 3 is the best list. It has stronger punch with the wolf which everyone everywhere seems to suggest as our answer to heavy war-nouns. Gorax also just seems good for 4 points being killy and with good fury for a light. He and the wolf appear to combo very well together as well. I then chose megalith as my geo because he seems better than warden and I am not sure if I can put two points somewhere better. Having the points for 2 stones (one upgraded), upgraded druids and the wayfarer just seems like a very strong support setup for the big guys.

Well let me know what ya'll think and please redirect me if some of my opinions are a bit off. I am brand spanking new but have tried to educate myself before posting on the list section

[PG_cheddercaveman]

List 3 is the sweet spot if you don't need megalith in another list

[Razious]

I've actually been using the 2nd list except without the druids and actually the punch isnt that bad. The guardian its pretty beefy if you get the first hit off cause you dont need to boost hits and at P+S 17 boosting on really becomes a concern at ARM 20-21+