eDenny and pSkarre 35 pts

[Cbgad]

So I'm considering:

pSkarre
Nightwretch
Reaper
Skarlock
6 Bane thralls + UA
10 mechthralls
Necrosurgeon + thralls
Satyxis raider captain
10 satyxis raiders + sea ua

I have one point to spare and considering just adding a brute to the mechthralls...

Idea is mechthralls in center with surgeon, skarre, skarlock, reaper center/flank with nightwretch to arc backlash to reaper's harpoon target, satyxis on flank to attack backlashed heavy jack. Banethralls on opposite center. Arcnode is there primarily for greater backlash coverage plus in the case of skarre having 12 focus thanks to sacrifice. Though i'm doubtfull whether it really is necessary to have arc with pskarre.

eDenny
2 nightwretch
Slayer
Skarlock
10 mechthralls
Necrosurgeon
Pistol wraith
10 bloodwitches + ua
Warwitch siren
Withershadow combine

I doubt whether i really want the slayer, and considering a banethrall unit+ua instead of the slayer+pistol wraith (since denny seems so focus hungry herself) with one point left or just dropping pistol wraith for another siren + brute thrall for the mechthralls.

thoughts?

i'm also considering the 3 scrap thralls for the one point in both list, purely for disruption, but i'm unsure whether or not they won't disrupt myself as much as the opponent... opinions?

[deademon]

o.o bane thralls with pskarre. DG + feat...ps 16 wm with ds...why havnt i tried that...

is this for a tourny or just playing around? 33 dudes to activate is a short amount of time? better plan that stuff out...

edenny list.

yea, i dont like the idea of the slayer as well. hes 6 pts right? so 3 brutes, a WWS aaaaand...machine wraith? 3 scrap thralls?

just throwing stuff out there. its late, take this all with a huge grain of salt.

[Gamingdevil]

I agree you don't need a node for pSkarre, dropping it lets you bump the banes to max and has 1 point left for Scrap Thralls as Ritual Sacrifice fodder.

I like your idea of dropping the Slayer with eDenny, he really doesn't do much for her.

[deademon]

I agree you don't need a node for pSkarre, dropping it lets you bump the banes to max and has 1 point left for Scrap Thralls as Ritual Sacrifice fodder.

and this...

[Sanctjud]

The issue with bane thralls not more often seen with pSkarre (<--meh, not entirely accurate of a statement) is the limited threat ranges, esp. without Tartarus.

pSkarre buffs HITTING, buffs HITTING HARD, and durability.
What she doesn't help with, is threat range and the ability to mitigate terrain...which are things I keep in mind when choosing stuff for her.

[Cbgad]

I considered swapping the node for bane lord tartarus. My perfect setup would be tartarus + 10 bane knights, but i'm one point short and can't really see where ill find it besides the reaper, but really like the idea of reaper + backlash to put the pressure on... that would be a considerable increase in threat range thoug, do think it would be worth it over the reaper?

[Scottl1]

pskarre wants mcthralls instead of bane thralls.. Dark guidance+feat equals = mcthralls with 2 pow 16 or 1 pow 20 with 3 die to hit. So 2 squads is 40 pow 16s or 20 pow 20s for the price of 1 squad of banes. Mcthralls just hit harder.

With pskarre I like 2 squads of McThralls, 1 squad of bloodgorgers and 1 unit of satyxis(with ua) with stuff. Thats a lot of attacks at real high pow. Oh and toss in 2 helldivers for her jack points.

With the denny's its fun to have dual pistol wraiths due to being 2 pow 14(with curse of shadows) and rat 10(with edenny's feat). 4 pow 14s can either kill or shut down stuff. lol Though I like the shooty denny lists sooo yea.

[Cbgad]

problem is covering 20 mechthralls, 10 satyxis and a unit of blood gorgers in her control area, so might aim for a slighty smaller force.

thanks for the input (all)

think i'll pull the slayer out of the denny list for a pistol wraith, a warwitch and 1 brute thrall.

[Scottl1]

The thing about bloodgorgers that is also helpful is they can screen skarre when shes up close to cover things since really shes an 11 health caster.

[Sanctjud]

The thing about bloodgorgers that is also helpful is they can screen skarre when shes up close to cover things since really shes an 11 health caster.

Only if you 'actually' could count on Tough rolls... I would agree.

[Scottl1]

Only if you 'actually' could count on Tough rolls... I would agree.

Beats the alternative of them just shooting her. At least force the choice and make them have to clear them out.

[Bloodarcane]

The thing about bloodgorgers that is also helpful is they can screen skarre when shes up close to cover things since really shes an 11 health caster.

you keep the necrosurgeon near her to heal her up after the feat

[Sanctjud]

Beats the alternative of them just shooting her. At least force the choice and make them have to clear them out.

There are other/better options. Also they are on the slow side for her.

[Scottl1]

There are other/better options.

Like clouds?

That's 3 for 3 now. Mentioning bloodgorgers screening and the "better" options sanct.

[Sanctjud]

So? Three different threads.
Learn2stalker, brah?

FFS, yes, clouds ARE an 'OPTION'.
While 'better' options involve keeping out of threat range, terrain, options that don't require points.

[Scottl1]

So? Three different threads.
Learn2stalker, brah?

FFS, yes, clouds ARE an 'OPTION'.
While 'better' options involve keeping out of threat range, terrain, options that don't require points.

A frontline caster like skarre doesn't really get the option of staying out of threat range since she has to be close for her feat, dark guidance etc since she's a focus 6 caster. Only way to count on terrain is if you kill your own extra cheap chicken to make some.

[Sanctjud]

So you need to be upfront, close to the front line with a slow second wave unit to screen her?
In my experience, Gorgers are just too slow, only times i enjoy using them is when they AD in pSkarres theme list.

[Scottl1]

So you need to be upfront, close to the front line with a slow second wave unit to screen her?
In my experience, Gorgers are just too slow, only times i enjoy using them is when they AD in pSkarres theme list.

Except they can run to be ahead of her since she is walking and casting in most cases. In cases of charging they are just as fast(vs living). Based purely on spd they are base slower then most the casters but so are many of the "heavier" hitting infantry. Aside from other satyxis and chicken jacks she can outpace most things in the crys books so by your point of spd there is nothing worth running except those who are as fast.

[Sanctjud]

Heavier infantry aren't tasked with screening.
I don't take slow units with her, she doesn't cast spells every round, dark guidance does not need to be up 100% of the time.
I will drop this issue, I see there is a play style and list building difference that makes our experiences too different to cross roads

[Slice]

If an attacking unit does not have at least SPD 7 i am not taking it with pSkarre.
Raiders and Soulhunters all the way.


The OP list is playable but i would swap the chicken for a Deathripper or a Ripjaw, she liker her melee jacks.
The 1p could be Scrap Thralls (Rit Sacrifice) the Ripjaw upgrade or a Machine Wraith (my favourite choice).

You could also drop the Chicken completely and either add Daragh Wrathe or Tartarus. Both help out your Banes with threat problems and can kill stuff reliably themselves. DW brings the benefit of beeing able to reduce incoming damage to Skarre even more.

if you really want to keep the Banes you should also keep the Reaper, since when your Banes cant reach the heavy they want to smack around you just bring it closer to them