help with a cryx shooting list

[xdemonspeedx]

i am new to warmachine. i was wondering if i could get any help with a cryx shooting list.
pdenny
2 nightwretch
2 leviathons
2 bloat thrall
and a small unit of bane thralls

i want to use the unit of bane thrall as cover for pdenny.
any help would be helpfull

[Sanctjud]

How will you distribute your focus when you are going for the kill
pDenny generally wants focus efficient Helljacks if any.
As a ranged list, it is missing Nyss hunters or Croes cutthroats, who are mercs, and the best 'shooting' unit in Cryx.

[xdemonspeedx]

what would be a good warcaster if i want to just use there focus for most of the game not there spells?

[Gamingdevil]

what would be a good warcaster if i want to just use there focus for most of the game not there spells?

pSkarre comes to mind, but I don't think any of our casters run double Leviathans well. Although some people have had success with Terminus, but there their primary role is to screen him and as long as they do that, he generally doesn't need his focus. Even then your primary victory condition would be Terminus to face.

As Sanctjud pointed out, your best bet for a shooty Cryx list are mercs:

pDenny +5
Nightwretch 4
Nightwretch 4
Skarlock Thrall 2
full Nyss Hunters 10
full Croe's Cutthroats 10
Dougal McNaile 2
Gorman di Wulfe 2
Pistol Wraith 3
Pistol Wraith 3

That's 35 points, if you really want to you could add a Leviathan to go to 50, but I wouldn't. Don't make the mistake of using your arc nodes to shoot, they are there for arcing primarily and shooting when they don't have anything better to do.

Your primary objective would be to get Scourge on the opposing caster (knock down), then Parasite and unload everything in it, should kill it

[xdemonspeedx]

thank you i see how that list runs now for the mercs how does that work?

[SpiderBite]

thank you i see how that list runs now for the mercs how does that work?

pDenny +5 -debuff queen
Nightwretch 4 -arcnode that spits
Nightwretch 4 -arcnode that spits
Skarlock Thrall 2 -Ghostwalking solo
full Nyss Hunters 10 -we ignore stuff and shoot you, and can put some hurt on you in melee
full Croe's Cutthroats 10 -we make living stuff dead, fast
Dougal McNaile 2 -+2" RNG to all mercs, YES! Gorman won't miss Black Oil? /drool
Gorman di Wulfe 2 -Mr.Black Oil. . . I hear he does other stuff too
Pistol Wraith 3 -Mr. Lock-down
Pistol Wraith 3 -Mr. Lock-down (I love hittin Avatar with these guys)

On a generic KillTurn, pDen allocates 1 to an arcnode if necessary.
1-Skarlock GhostWalk arcnode.
2-Arcnode gets into position. (shoots somethin' if it didn't run because why not?)
3-Den feats, Scourge hits main target (warcaster/lock), if you didnt allocate anythin' to the arcnode, drop a Parasite on it too.
4-Doug pops his minifeat and gives the Nyss, Croe's, himself, and Gorman +2"RNG. He can either *Action:Artillerist Gorman or shoot his own gun (up to 4x).
Nyss are 21" threat, Croe's are 18", Doug is 17", Gorman can reliably hit with Black Oil 14" out.
You should now be able to shoot anything on the board in LoS.
5-Everything unloads.

[Gamingdevil]

tactics

I think he means to ask how to use mercs in a Cryx list.

Every Mercenary has its own special rules where it states for which faction they will work, as long as they will work for Cryx you can put them in your army just like any other unit. Merc Warjacks can only go under Merc Warcasters and Merc Warcasters can only join another faction in 2+ caster games (don't worry about that for now)

Come to think of it, maybe you should drop the Croe's in the above list to a minimum unit and add a Warwitch Siren to help with focus. Spend the extra point on whatever (Scrap Thralls/Machine Wraith/ upgrading a node)

[Ordena76]

Personally, I run this as my Cryx shooting list:

ESkarre +6

Levithan 9
Defiler 5
Nightwretch 4
Full Black Ogrun 6
Min Bile Thralls 5
2 Pistol Wraiths 6
Bloat Thrall 2
War Witch Siren 2
War Witch Siren 2

Total 35

It runs pretty well since ESkarre allows the Jack to boost after see what the first two dice look like.

[xdemonspeedx]

i wanted to use the reaper because of the harpoon but then i would need something to attack whatever i harpooned. idk much tactics but i usually put the wicthes behind a jack and when i need to use there power booster but i always get shot down b4 i can get up to the enemy. how is the seether in combat? ive used him a few times he always gets focused fired.
the list im currently running is the box set with pistol wraith seether and 2 wicthes

[xdemonspeedx]

i want to run a list where by the time the other army gets to me they have been shot so much that there half strength and i have something to clean up the barely funtioning warjacks

[ZombieWar]

No love for the steelhead riflemen? they just seem to scream Pdenny.

[Sanctjud]

But you could have had Nyss Hunters and Croes before SH riflemen.
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To be fair, they are 'cheap' as you'd really only spend 5 points on a min. unit, and while they are a decent mobile shooting option, they are not as flexible as the other options.

I have only used them from reserves (to great effect) along with 2 Captains and a Machine Wraith, they can clear out enough stuff on a flank to secure it most of the time.

[xdemonspeedx]

what would be a good tactic for pistol wraithes

[Sanctjud]

If you would like to take Pistol Wraiths, I would suggest a brace of Pistol Wraiths.
Their role depends, but you should know during deployment.

Roles:
*Anti-infantry, with some help of debuffs, they can kill nearly half a squad of troopers.
*Killing specific models blocking your charge lanes.
*Solo hunters.
*Jack/beast lock down.
*With mass debuffs (aka pDenny) Assassination.

Do note, they are pretty pricey, so knowing their threat range and the enemy threat range to keep them safe is paramount.

[xdemonspeedx]

thank you all for the help.

[xdemonspeedx]

how are bile thralls? also i want to get some bloat thralls how good are they?

[Sanctjud]

Boosts can be ok, but you are counting on its blast damage. He has decent synergy with shooting into your own Raiders and mini feated Blood Witches.
Biles are mainly there to purge, their shooting attack only comes into play when you have debuff casters like Denny.