35/50 point pMagnus and Damiano

[PG_Rayzthedead]

I would like some input on my 35 and 50 point lists. They are based on pMagnus and Damiano, focusing on the Steel head models to keep it cost effective and lower the amount of models to paint.

35 points pMag tier 4
Magnus the traitor +6
Galleon 18
renegade 5
renegade 5
gorman 2
10 steel heads halberdiers
6 steel heads halberdiers
for the tier bonus: small steelheads get advance move, one wreck marker per warjack,( now the funny part: i believe the wreck marker size is dependent on the size of jacks you brought. So one super huge one and two mediums) Also all models in Magnus battle group start off with the up keeps on them!
i feel between the mass amout of AOEs i can throw out, i can deal with stealth and infantry well.

Capt Damiano 35
Damiano+6
Nomad 6
Rocinante 9
Sylys 2
10 nyss hunters ( good dead eye prospect) 10
6 steel heads halberdiers 4
6 steel heads halberdiers 4
3 steel head cavalry 6

The Capt turns the steel heads up and I think they can jam well when backed up with Nyss and their cavalry.

pMag 50 tier 4
Magnus +6
Galleon 18
renegade 5
renegade 5
Gorman 2
Orin midwinter 2
Saxon orrik 2
10 steel heads halberdiers 6
10 steel heads halberdiers 6
5 Steel head Cav 10
So the same tier bonus apply from above :P

Capt Damiano 50
Damiano +6
Rocinante 9
Rover 8
Sylys 2
Eiryss Angel of ret 3
10 nyss hunters 10
Stannis Brocker 4
6 steel heads halberdiers 4
10 steel heads halberdiers 6
5 steel heads halberdiers 10

[LiamPiver]

You're right on the wreck marker which is really cool with Mags. I think I'd try to get Dougal McNaile into that list though (either 35 or 50 but you have more room at 50). He'll make Galleon (when he comes out) great and he rocks the Renegades with Artillerist and Double Powder Rations giving +6 range to something with Snipe thrown on it.

Crap....Dougal breaks tier doesn't he? Well, I say try that out then. Seems fine the way it is. I think you'll get a lot out of the 120mm wreck marker. But that +2 Rat on the guns on Galleon will likely be worth trying out (breaking tier) to see if you like it better than the wreck markers and advanced move.

[JohnOSpencer]

I like Arcane Tempest Gun Mages over Nyss Hunters. Sure you don't get as many shots, but they are more accurate to start and ignore stealth.

[PG_Rayzthedead]

Hmmm, I am finding that there are almost too many options with Damiano, I agree with the gunmages, I may not get as many shhots but I think in game they will have more utility. I will switch some stuff around. How do you guys find steel heads with pMagnus? I feel for the point cost they are great and I was looking at the rifle men. Maybe time to do a bit of switching around. Is the tier list worth sticking to? I am building the list for tournament play, I think Mercs can do some solid *** whooping once we get our Colossal! I feel pMagnus can have it ready for almost any situation.

[PG_Rayzthedead]

I did a bit of switching around and I think i will not use pMagnus tier. Instead I was looking at these two lists for 35points

pMagnus+6
Galleon 18
Alexia and the risen 5
Gorman 2
Master gunner dugal 2
10 steel head halbreders 6
3 steel head cav 6

I think mag can keep the galleon going well! snipe in the early turns to drift the 2x D3 shots at infantry, hell even with 3 focus + artillerist I could put some damage on a heavy. Later switch to tempered metal . Alexia is there to load up on the dead and just be a hoard of dead in the way! I think the steel heads and Cav can hold there own.

Damiano +6
Rocinante 9
Rover 8
sylys 2
Gunmages + ua 8
10 steel heads halbs 6
3 steel head cav 6

this leaves me with 2 points left, I was thinkimg Rupert or find another 2 points and get a Min steel head Halbs unit.

[Alphadork]

Damiano +6
Rocinante 9
Rover 8
sylys 2
Gunmages + ua 8
10 steel heads halbs 6
3 steel head cav 6

this leaves me with 2 points left, I was thinkimg Rupert or find another 2 points and get a Min steel head Halbs unit.

Or you could swap the Rover our for a Nomad and add Stannis Brocker . . .

Alternate suggestion for you, my current Damiano list is a Highborn contract that features Max Boomhowlers set up in a horseshoe around Gallant (who gets Surefoot). Rhupert potentially adds another +1 DEF getting Boomies to DEF 15 total, add in the ability to fell call for Tough on a 4+ and you have a unit that can jam your opponent really, realy well.

Deathmarch on Boomies just adds insult to injury giving them more mobility and extra attacks when one of them is destroyed.

The strategy can also work with Roci - I just like Damiano and Gallant because Surefoot pushes Gallant to DEF 15 as well - which is nasty on a heavy.

[PG_Rayzthedead]

i have not used Stannis brocker before, is he worth the 4 points?

[pattison]

Depends on the role you want to give him... not that he has too many choices.
I'd say don't bother with him below 50pts. And even at 50 we have eAlexia...
Reading the MKI card of Stannislav it's even harder to filed the MKII version.
Still I even brought him to a tournament not so long ago with Damiano accompanied by eAlexia and 3 SHC. Fun & quick but not the most survivable loadout.

[MagnustheJust]

I run Stannis even more aggressively now than I did in MK-I...

Flanking, ride by hand cannon attacks, objective taking till my unit of choice gets into position, and of course - Steelhead Tactician.