War Room (I know I am being ridunculus)

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

(And I said this before) You don't even have to hand your device. Just click up to the relevant information (and by those screen shots here is at least 2 ways to present it) and lay the tablet flat on the board were your opponent may see what he requested. There is no reason for your opponent to touch your device in the whole transaction.

Or, with most modern tablets, you can have it sitting on the table in front of you, and when an opponent asks to see a card, you can just tip it towards them and the orientation will shift so they can read it. About as easy as it gets.

[Lighten]

If PP's making it official, then pressgangers should be supporting it; that's pretty much what they're (not) paid to do (though they do get free PP stuff out of it, at least)

I intend to try using it as a card replacement for one purpose - getting to play the small Troll army I collected before I found out I'm terrible with them and like Circle better Didn't pay the $20 for the card deck so I could use them on the MkII transition, but now I can legally pull them out and play around with them, since $5.50 is much cheaper.

[Dark Templar]

Referring to OP's post…

I just did a quick search to see what the average time is that Apple takes to review an app… 6-9 days which would give us some time between Monday and Wednesday next week until release

[Josh]

People who create such threads have to wait for war room all over again. That is the power we wield.

A grim fate indeed.

[superGOAT]

http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/

This site might interest those of you who are wondering how long the approval process takes.

[Spike77]

http://reviewtimes.shinydevelopment.com/

This site might interest those of you who are wondering how long the approval process takes.

I was hoping for today but this post just made me sad.

[warder808]

Did they ever sort out the Tier Lists for Warroom?

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

I know it's not likely, but it's possible that the day they announced that the app "went gold" could have been several days after it actually went gold. So the 9 days is a grim possibility, but who knows?

[Poppabear40]

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/cry

[Barrynstein]

Well it only gets sadder if you assume that they mean 9 business days which means we may nto see the app until tuesday or Wednesday next week,

[Outbreak]

Well it only gets sadder if you assume that they mean 9 business days which means we may nto see the app until tuesday or Wednesday next week,

they dont, in the description below it it asks anyone submitting time to include non-business days

[Barrynstein]

Then that pushes the expected wait until at least mid-day Monday.

[Gothgar]

People who create such threads have to wait for war room all over again. That is the power we wield.

So, everyone would have to wait all over again, since you are pushing for a simultaneous release :P

[PG_ThatRickGuy]

The names and titles of all the factions, characters, units, etc, are all owned by PP, either as trade names or copyright.

Incorrect sir. The model names have not been trademarked, nor can you copyright a name. Additionally, in civil court, if PP chose to pursue the matter, they would be limited to suing for damages, and there are additional requirements that such a lawsuit would have to overcome.

That said, like all IP disputes, your claim to ownership is only as strong as your lawyer. PP likely has access to a lawyer, although it is probably a business lawyer, not an IP lawyer. But even so, they have resources that they could spend on such an initiative if they chose. Your average garage-shop independent software developer does not have access to a lawyer, let alone one specializing in IP laws. Even so, just the threat of a lawsuit is going to disuade most individuals from doing anything with the material.

I love PP, their products, and the materials that go along with them. They were absolutely within their rights to ask iBodger to close up, and the iBodger guy had no reason to fight them on it. But there is a whole lot of incorrect information floating around on Copyrights, Trademarks, and Patents. I'd seriously recommend spending some time learning more about how Intellectual Property Rights work.

-Rick

[MadJack]

Did they ever sort out the Tier Lists for Warroom?

This is what I've been wanting to know. An answer to this question would really help me to plan my purchasing.

[PG_Electric Seal]

This is what I've been wanting to know. An answer to this question would really help me to plan my purchasing.

They've never said that theme force validation was ever going to be included. It's just something that was in their game plan from the start.

[garwjenk]

This is what I've been wanting to know. An answer to this question would really help me to plan my purchasing.

I think if you look at the new screen captures, you will see a "theme force selected" button. So I would say that it is included.

[PG_Electric Seal]

I think if you look at the new screen captures, you will see a "theme force selected" button. So I would say that it is included.

That's always been there, but the question is will it validate the theme force, i.e, not allow you to add models not in theme. I think the theme force is just there for reference, and it's up to you to make sure you are following it.

[MadJack]

That's always been there, but the question is will it validate the theme force, i.e, not allow you to add models not in theme. I think the theme force is just there for reference, and it's up to you to make sure you are following it.

This is what concerns me. If this is the way they've done it (I know they said months ago that this was how it was going to work), then I'm probably not going to buy the decks (or at least not right away - I'll play with the free app for a while before making a decision). If they've used some of the extra time it's taken them to release it to do some development to build in validation (which is what I'm hoping), then I'm buying all decks for sure.

[Bishop84]

Nothing I've seen has made any mention of theme lists, and early rumors were that theme lists were not supported. Has anyone heard or seen if this was/is the case? I use a lot of theme lists, and the ones with cost discounts and freebies will be a pain if the app doesn't support it.

[Bohrdog]

I just hate apple more with each day that goes by.

[Darque]

July 13,

Curse you War Room Sports!

[Poppabear40]

July 13,

Curse you War Room Sports!

seconded

REFRESH
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REFRESH

/head desk.

[Ninja5]

ha! no kidding. i almost want to download it for something to do.

[Grifter13]

This really sucks! If they ever do anything like this again I would rather not know about it till it was available.

[Cheesy Flip Flips]

July 13,

Curse you War Room Sports!

I think you've adequately described the feelings of all apple users! Well played sir.

[AJ the Ronin]

This really sucks! If they ever do anything like this again I would rather not know about it till it was available.

That's how GWS do it.

[TheRupert]

This really sucks! If they ever do anything like this again I would rather not know about it till it was available.

This x10! Would be so much better if they said "Hey guess what? We made an app called War Room, go download it!"

[Vex]

This x10! Would be so much better if they said "Hey guess what? We made an app called War Room, it's awesome. Go download it!"

Or even if they just made the first date they announced.

Or the second...

Or the third...

[West996]

I think there is something valuble in having your fan base anticipate your product to this degree. I for one, didn't even know about the Warroom in production until it hit the forums like a storm.

That is part of the reason movies have teaser trailers. They don't tell you a whole lot about the movie, but they let you know its coming so you start talking about it.

[Gavriel]

Compared to HL3, this wait is nothing. Just be glad this isn't going like Duke Nukem Forever.

[Grifter13]

They could have still done said it was in production, shown screen shots, explained features, just without the date.

[Lich_Lord_X]

I just hate apple more with each day that goes by.

Have we gotten any official conformation that this is Apple's "fault." And no SDCC hearsay doesn't count.

[SgtPepper]

No, no official announcement that apple is the one holding things back. Unofficially, we all know it's been approved through the other app stores because they don't have nearly as strenuous app approval processes. Let's not lie to ourselves here to feel better. I have an iPhone and iPad but right now I hate apple.

[EdgeKun]

Have we gotten any official conformation that this is Apple's "fault." And no SDCC hearsay doesn't count.

What we know (as far as PP/TH's word is to be trusted, which I would think it is) is that Warroom was submitted to Google Play / Amazon Appstore / Apple simultaneously when it went gold, and that they're holding back on any releases until all three have been approved. (So they can have a simultaneous release)

Statistically (general knowledge shared from other app developers) we "know" that the Apple approval process takes 7-14 days, with Google Play taking far, far less. I think it's also been stated that the Amazon Approval process is also shorter.

So while no one from tinkerhouse or PP has stated as such, looking at how much time has passed it would certainly make sense that the app is in the limbo of Apple's approval process, thus making it Apple's "fault". (Unless you want to argue it's TH/PP's fault for requiring a simultaneous release)

[SgtPepper]

I'm chomping at the bit, just release it and I'll go buy a Droid tablet and return it when it is released for iOS.....pretty please.

[Lich_Lord_X]

I'd say it's less anyone's fault besides the people who cant be patient.

[PG_Dalthoraz]

This is just sad they should have submitted 2-3 weeks ago and then had it wait til the 9th. I'm tired of waiting still going to buy it all just the first time I have been disappointed in PP, except noticably smaller errant on the plastic set vs metal. Not as small as 12 year old b13 though

[AJ the Ronin]

Wow, there is 653 people in the board. On a Friday. And is not even GenCon or L&L.

[Outbreak]

this thread is 2300 views from surpassing the ibodger thread