The Spriggians Guns

[MathPasta]

The Spriggian is great. Bulldoze and Arm 21 are a great thing. But what bugs me are his Grenade launchers. Pow so low I just never find them useful (Except potentially butchers feat turn if my enemies are out of range).

His flares are nice, But I think I would rather have him cost 9 points and not have any of his guns.

But maybe I just haven't heard stories about potential uses if the guns. So how about telling of the times when you think that his guns where a great thing to have.

[Esper]

They're situational. A positive for the guns is that they're not part of a system, so aren't affected by damage to the Spriggan. I once had a Spriggan that was down to a single box of movement, and in a Sunhammer area so it couldn't move without killing itself. On my turn, I had it aim and fire two arcing shots, killing a few troops with hits and blast damage. Situational, but not bad for a warjack one box away from being a wreck marker.

[Tico Love]

I had one take out a pair of Choir Boys once. That was somewhat useful. The Spriggan wasn't in a position where it could charge anyone. So it was better than doing nothing.

[quotemyname]

POW 5 blast damage rolls still rips through low arm (~11) troops on average rolls. Gun Mages / Choir / Enemy Kayazy should all fear a warjack that can fire two of these per round. Also, Targeting Flare is AMAZING!

[Auracco]

POW 5 blast damage rolls still rips through low arm (~11) troops on average rolls. Gun Mages / Choir / Enemy Kayazy should all fear a warjack that can fire two of these per round. Also, Targeting Flare is AMAZING!

^That.

They are situational but I like them, I would not want a 9 point version of the spriggan without the grenades. I've been able to win enough games because of the flare to be convinced of their usefulness. Sure they won't always be useful but they are also our best way to deal with stealth. Blast damage can only do so much against jack/beast with occultation or high arm solos with wound like tartarus.

The grenades are usefull when you know you can't charge and with buffs like S&P or PButcher's feat they can deal infantry.

[PG_Draxos]

You do realize this is the only way the faction has to ignore stealth right? That's kinda big

[Jamie P]

You do realize this is the only way the faction has to ignore stealth right? That's kinda big

This too...

[Digilante]

Aside from spamming at low ARM, I've found them occasionally useful for "sniping" out officers and solos. A arcing boosted pow 10 the enemy isn't expecting can often do wonders.

[petetsm]

Plus, just the fact that he has them means you can get one of our best Melee jacks in all those theme lists that specify "non-character warjacks with ranged weapons", which seem to be popping up more and more all the time. Despite our ranged game being not-so-hot.

[tjhairball]

Plus, just the fact that he has them means you can get one of our best Melee jacks in all those theme lists that specify "non-character warjacks with ranged weapons", which seem to be popping up more and more all the time. Despite our ranged game being not-so-hot.

If only Behemoth was a non-character warjack...

[Cambeul]

If only Behemoth was a non-character warjack...

They can make more than one Conquest, but only one Behemoth...

[Kuarnix]

I killed Caine with 'em. Once.....

[Septimus]

Used them to good effect with eIrusk. Moved the spriggan up, grenaded some pesky Nyss Hunters hiding in the woods (who I believe then failed a command roll, very nice), then used energizer to about-face the spriggan so he was still facing the main action for next turn.

[78Brad]

I like their power as is i would like to see their range bumped up to 12".

[TarlSS]

They're more there for the targeting flare so you can snipe out a Deneghra.

[comrade]

If I know for sure that I'm fighting cryx I take him, at the very least, for the flares... bottom line.

[HellVenom]

I smacked around that stealth jack cryx with the grenade launchers. One to find 'em and the other to slam the shot into it, by the time my opponent figured out what the grenade launcher were capable of his jack was getting the lance to the face.

The launchers aren't amazing and the flare is their primary purpose, but they give the jack something to do when it isn't making other factions cry in melee.

you can get one of our best Melee jacks in all those theme lists that specify "non-character warjacks with ranged weapons"

This is also really awesome too.

[profparm]

His flares are nice, But I think I would rather have him cost 9 points and not have any of his guns.

I agree with lots of things other players here have said, ESPECIALLY the anti-stealth functions, but I just have to say that if Sprigs had no grenade launchers and still cost 10 points, I'd still play him all the time.

I don't think of the grenade launchers as being worth a point; I think of them as being the icing on my appropriately-costed-10-point-cake.

[MouseC]

I love my spriggan jack with Karchev. Unfortunately, due to playing him with Karchev I never fire the grenades as the sling shot puts him where I want him faster. When i've used him with Butcher, i've found the grenades useful as folks mention on feat turn, if i'm caught without a preferable target, and there is some squishy infantry close by. Versatility comes to mind, for the points combining a high arm, high damage output off the spear, bull doze, and a huge grind ... the grenades are gravy. And the stealth thing is nice.

[Digilante]

The other nice thing is that he can walk four inches and lob two grenades into some unit to do some damage without needing any focus. Rarely the best use for him, but it is a better option than doing nothing for a turn.

[Kuarnix]

Oh! Duh! That was the other thing. When I run a pair of Spriggans, they can do some good damage to a Mage Hunter Strike Force, since their armor his high enough to take a lot of the sting out of their damage, and the blast damage is great against them.

[Steelwater]

Personally I like the Spriggan. I agree that the guns are kinda specialty type thing, but give me a Spriggan and widowmakers and I can make bad things happen to alot of units.

[bStyker]

As others have pointed out, my favourite Khadorian opponent plays his Spriggan quite often, and though he doesn't use the grenades all that often, he does use them occasionally. They've claimed the lives of several Gunmages, as well as the much maligned Ryan of the Black 13th Strike Force. I've only witnessed him using the flares in one game against me, as Cygnar doesn't have much stealth, but as Kuarnix above posted, he has used them to good effect against another friend who plays Retribution. He uses them on the Mage Hunter Strike Force, and other Solos (Narn, etc) who think they're safe due to Stealth. Combined with Widomakers, it's a great Warjack to advance up the field and can occasionally support other support pieces in the army, while still dishing it out in melee.

Best,

[PG_The Captain]

I shot MacBain dead with my Spriggan once. He was too far for a charge. Zerkova Icy gripped him for -2 DEF, Spriggan aimed (so needed 7's to hit), boosted one to-hit roll and both damage rolls, rolled high.

Also, one gun to put a flare on Eiryss, second gun to shoot her with a boosted grenade.

It's a very good utility jack well worth 10 points for all its bells and whistles. I was sceptical as well at first, but the more I've played the Spriggan, the more I've learned to appreciate its versatility.

[ShockwaveIIC]

They're more there for the targeting flare so you can snipe out a Deneghra.

This man knows the truth.

*Remembers Sunday just gone, It was so sweet*

I agree with lots of things other players here have said, ESPECIALLY the anti-stealth functions, but I just have to say that if Sprigs had no grenade launchers and still cost 10 points, I'd still play him all the time.

I'm not so sure I would. I take the Spriggen mostly for Anti-Stealth tech and Bulldoze. Without the former, I'd be looking more towards the Devastator and Demolisher.

[Flak Maniak]

The flares are ace and I'd never give them up. They're such awesome anti-stealth tech. The grenades, on the other hand, are pretty terrible. But who cares? The 'jack is awesome for ten points.

[Dane]

This man knows the truth.

*Remembers Sunday just gone, It was so sweet*

I'm not so sure I would. I take the Spriggen mostly for Anti-Stealth tech and Bulldoze. Without the former, I'd be looking more towards the Devastator and Demolisher.

Powerful charge and reach are both pretty worthwhile too. Which has already been said, but the Spriggan isn't just flares and bulldoze. All in all, for ten points it's a great package.