Danish masters coming up need some input with eStryker

[Stephan Garmark]

I have caster AD, so I've promised myself that I would try to play with only two casters until the event. I chose eStryker and N3mo. This is the Stryker list I am thinking about and testing.

eStryker
Squire
Rowdy
Stormwall (bonded)

Full Stormguard
Full Sword Knight

3 x stormsmith
Junior
Strangewayes
Runewood

Okay bringing the lightning. I just got home from ETC where I fielded eHaley and Im so sick of her now and I really missed Stryker while I was over there.

The idea is simple enough, take advantage of positive charge and covering fire while frying the field with pods and triangulations.
In this list Im thinking Stryker might even get to cast lightning storm on occation because you can drop a pod and put down 2 covering fires and putting Lightning storm on the pod to close even more of the field.

I find that bonds are awesome with stormwall, those 4 focus are just amazing and the free extra die on the first melee attack is almost like having 5 focus or charging for free so thats great.

Strangewayes is just incredible with wall since it will get hurt and fixing it up can mean winning or losing. Mechanics could do well too, but strangewayes is just a little better because he can powerboost rowdy if he needs to.

Rowdy and Stryker isnt my favorite combo in the world, but I generally like a heavy in my Stormwall lists and since Stryker likes to put focus in the wall Rowdy is perfect. Also countercharging things that attempt to break the wall and KD'ing them is just fun.
KD is also imortant to counteract stormwalls low MAT when I'm strapped for focus and can't cast PC.

Sword knights with AS and deflection up are great, so is stormguard. I generally plan to advance slowly with stormwall behind the infantry and putting covering fire on them to make them immune to non reach low arm infantry like kayazis or satyxis. Stormsmiths are amazing in 3s with stormwall and since I'm not running B13 their ranges support is needed.

Tell me what you think it's appreciated

[PG_Tommeh]

As i've mentioned before I don't think the squire is needed with stryker, especially if you're not bringing a lancer to arc rebuke.
Those 2 points could go into the piper, or if you drop one smith, Runewood.

[Stephan Garmark]

Oh. Runewood is already in the list, forgot to add him.
Stryker doesn't like to boogie without his old pal Tom Selleck

[Stephan Garmark]

Tested the list today against the new(ish) Shae list. I won bit it was very close, Stryker ended up one shotting the pirate but I'd suffered catastrophic casualties, losing both stormwall and all my infantry.
Rowdy, stryker, runewood and Arlan was the sad remains of my list.

I really don't like storm guard. They're slow and their bad DEF is really an issue, I just don't know what to try in the list instead of them, maybe precursors are more sexy in the list.

[Brettman008]

I really don't like storm guard. They're slow and their bad DEF is really an issue, I just don't know what to try in the list instead of them, maybe precursors are more sexy in the list.

I'd suggest cutting two points and swapping the Guard out for Boomhowler's and Murdoch. Those medium bases are going to really protect your Stormwall and under Deflection they're almost all but immune to shooting.

To cut those points I'd swap your Sword Knights for B13th. That way you have the tools to deal with . Plus, Pods are just fantastic for placing Mage Storm.

[Josh]

The list seems to be lacking in much utility. Not much ranged, no way to deal with stealth, no upkeep removal. Is it 2 lists D&C?

[Stephan Garmark]

The list seems to be lacking in much utility. Not much ranged, no way to deal with stealth, no upkeep removal. Is it 2 lists D&C?

Stormwall is pretty good at range and stormcallers + pods deals with stealth very nicely. Id say that theres plenty of ranged going on considering it's a melee oriented army

[PG_Tommeh]

I like 'guard with Stryker as they are probably the best in faction unit for his feat. I'd give them a few more chances before you decide against them. Precursors would be slower even.

[Josh]

Stormwall is pretty good at range and stormcallers + pods deals with stealth very nicely. Id say that theres plenty of ranged going on considering it's a melee oriented army

What about stealth bests/jacks? I guess I'm thinking of eKaya in particular, although she doesn't seem to see a lot of play in competitive environments. I also like having a way to deal with stealth stones early game so I don't get double ported Stalker in my face. The piper seems like a natural fit to the list as well. having 2 big infantry units means you can double up on path finder with Tom Selleck, and also the pipers tough plus Reveille on Runewood is pretty nice too.

[Stephan Garmark]

Storm Guard from 15" away is nice. I'll keep them for some games.

In regards to Kaya she's always a factor, same with eLylith shadow pact is a *****, however with Stryker Ill just try to deploy deep and keep stormwall out of charge range from that stalker or feral. Its a tough matchup, but I dont think we have anything that helps well enough against her. I'm more afraid of his bloodtrackers since they can easily take apart my infantry.
The "Stryker factor" is important though. His threat range is massive so against her I would likely chance it a little and see if I can take out a beast or two quickly.

EDIT: actually gun mages + ua wouldn't be a bad reinforcement for this list.

[PG_Tommeh]

ATGM+UA + Pendrake would do nicely indeed.

[Stephan Garmark]

Sure would.
I had another game with the list today against eDennu and a weird list with 2 wraith engines and a Kraken. It went well but I lost Stryker after Dennys feat and because I made a slight mistake.
I think Rowdy has to go 19 points is an expensive battlegroup and I do think i need a little more ranged support.
I'm considering taking B13, Eiryss and Pendrake for the 9 points or full gun mages with UA and dump a stormsmith to fit Pendrake.
However, without Rowdy, Strangewayes utility fades as well so maybe tale out him, keep the smith and add Eiryss.

So either

Stryker
Squire
Stormwall

Storm Guard
Sword Knights
Gun Mages + UA

Junior
Stormsmith x3
eEiryss
Runewood

Or

Stryker
Squire
Stormwall

Storm Guard
Sword Knights
B13
Storm Blades


Stormsmith x2
Junior
eEiryss
Runewood

Testing on