Question about Battle Mages vs. Magisters

[Terrokhan]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to know your general opinion about these 2 choices for a RoS player

The Magister is cheaper and you can include 2 for less then the price of one Battle Mage unit and they are slightly more effective especially with Rahn's feat

Get back to me as I am a noob and can't decide what to purchase

[5-Cents]

Two great things that go great together I say

[Tirrith]

If you had to choose I would go 1 unit of Battle mages (with Rahn). Any other caster I would go 2 Magisters.

Reasons are the two different abilities that the Magister can do (mini slam and Whip Snap), Rahn can cover ( to a degree). And a full unit of Battle Mages gets more mileage out of Rahn's feat.

[Axelle]

I kinda like the Magister mainly because of Combo Smite and Whip Snap. Whip Snap is our only in-faction model that grants movement shenanigans that doesn't come from a warcaster. And Combo Smite does wonders when playing against bricked models. I try to field them whenever I have the points to spare (of course after listing in the Arcanists and MHAs needed).

Its a default choice for Rahn to have HSBM. Though I really wonder how the community see them outside a Rahn list. Apart from Rahn, only the Sphinx offers a certain level of assistance in helping them hit with their MagicAbility6 Force Bolts.

[Draekon Darkstorm]

I like the unit first, before the solos. 5 push/pulls is better than 2. 10 attacks with beat back is better than 2. The magister does have combo, but I don't think that is enough to choose one over a unit of battle mages.

Draekon

[Tirrith]

And whats even better, you get 6 Battle Mages, not 5

[TIEActor]

1. get all the battle mittens
2. run them with rahn
3.?????
4. profit!

[ucfan34]

Its a default choice for Rahn to have HSBM. Though I really wonder how the community see them outside a Rahn list. Apart from Rahn, only the Sphinx offers a certain level of assistance in helping them hit with their MagicAbility6 Force Bolts.

I haven't settled the HSBM permanently into any of my lists outside of Rahn, but I've been toying around with them in my Ossyan lists. The utility of them moving important things for the feat turn has been pretty sweet. The magic ability 6 isn't a problem as I'm usually targeting DEF 12 stuff most of the time, and with 6 potential attempts it's pretty safe to go after something important with even higher def. Moving jacks around can make the eEyriss / Banshee KD combo much easier too! Also, they work fantastically with Shatter Storm as well.

Only problem I've been having is that I've found that I wind up missing whatever it is I've changed. I should also mention that I run Halberdiers in my Ossyan list, and ranked attacks help all of the above quite a bit the way I've been running them.

I have zero experience with Garryth, but will be picking him up soon, and I have them in all my preliminary lists I'll be trying out... For whatever that's worth...

[titanmatrix]

1. get all the battle mittens
2. run them with rahn
3.?????
4. profit!

This.
Default when I'm building a list with Rahn is to include 2 BM units, 2 Magisters, and Artificers depending on what I do with the other 42 points.