Storm Troll Animus and Rathrok's Awakening

[NinjaSpank]

So, with the new ruling re: Electroleaps in this thread: http://privateerpressforums.com/show...nd-Electroleap

Does this mean that models that die from the electroleaps fuel Awakening? The storm trolls animus states specifically that "This models weapon gains electroleap" and the awakening rule says "...destroys a living enemy model with this weapon."

[HellecticMojo]

I don't think so, because the awakening specify weapon. Electro leap gains the benefit coming from the model it self such as prey, but it does not confer any weapon advantages.

[bakaryu]

Certainly worth dropping a thread in the rules forum about it.

Would allow for some truly fearsome eMadrak chains if it were the case.

[NinjaSpank]

Certainly worth dropping a thread in the rules forum about it.

Would allow for some truly fearsome eMadrak chains if it were the case.

Posted on the rules forum. Never hurts to double-check! http://privateerpressforums.com/show...46#post1532546

[rham7649]

I really wouldn't think so because the Electro leap does not count as a Rathrok attack so therefor would not trigger the awakening. On the Storm Trolls page is says "Damage from Lightning Generator strikes is not considered to have come from a hit or by a melee or ranged attack." So I don't think so, but it would be awesome if it did. We can always hope.

[NinjaSpank]

Well, the thread has been locked with the suggestion that the e-leaps will not generate Awakening fury. I'm a little disappointed because the thread was closed with a quote that "e-leaps arnt attacks" and that wasnt really the question. The question was whether the axe gets credit for killing the models, since the leaps are from the effect on the axe.

That being said, I was looking for an answer and I got it, so there we are.

[HellecticMojo]

Actually the whole "e leaps aren't attacks" answer the broader question since there's tide of death to consider on Maddy as well, not to mention the whole is it the axe that kills it.

[NinjaSpank]

Actually the whole "e leaps aren't attacks" answer the broader question since there's tide of death to consider on Maddy as well, not to mention the whole is it the axe that kills it.

I understand that, which is why I wasnt asking about the tide of death rule. E-leaps are not attacks, and I'm cool with that. But the fact is that e-leaps kill things, so who gets credit for the kill? Thats the question I have. As I said earlier, I have no problem if they say "Maddie gets the credit for the kill" ok, thats a clear ruling. But the ruling was that "e-leaps arnt attacks"... which doesnt change my question.

In fact, if you really wanna get weird with it, the rule for Awakening doesnt even say that the weapon has to kill something with an attack. Just that something has to die from the weapon. I have NO idea how you could kill something with the weapon without attacking with it, but there you go.

/shrug

One thing this does answer, though, is that Grim Salvation isnt triggered by e-leaps. This may have been common knowledge to everyone else, but its news to me.

[Crate123]

Hmm I read the lock as more of a "we still dont know if its an attack, we wont know until the devs tell us".

[Verminlord]

Under Tactical Tips on the Storm Troll lightning fists specifically mentions that Electro Leap works with Thresher. Since Thresher is an attribute assigned to the weapon, why wouldn't it be assigned to Madrak's weapon for this instance? It only makes sense that it would.

Then you just need to figure out if the Electro Leap is a melee attack or ranged attack. If melee then Blood Fury would work Leaps, if ranged then it would trigger Warpath. I am fine with either.

[NinjaSpank]

Under Tactical Tips on the Storm Troll lightning fists specifically mentions that Electro Leap works with Thresher. Since Thresher is an attribute assigned to the weapon, why wouldn't it be assigned to Madrak's weapon for this instance? It only makes sense that it would.

Then you just need to figure out if the Electro Leap is a melee attack or ranged attack. If melee then Blood Fury would work Leaps, if ranged then it would trigger Warpath. I am fine with either.

So, thats the part that has been decided. Electro-leaps are (so far) not attacks at all. It is damage done originating from the model who made the attack that caused the e-leaps.

[PG_Minted1985]

I have sent a message to poeicruse, about his confusing answer and the thread lock. The answer about the damage from electroleaps being from the model whose weapons have the ability and not the model's weapon, was what I was trying to get at. Failed of course, as it twisted into is an electroleap an attack or not thread.

[NinjaSpank]

I have sent a message to poeicruse, about his confusing answer and the thread lock. The answer about the damage from electroleaps being from the model whose weapons have the ability and not the model's weapon, was what I was trying to get at. Failed of course, as it twisted into is an electroleap an attack or not thread.

Yea, I've pretty much given up on this for now. I might bring it up again if/when the e-leaps ruling hits official errata, but for now I think they're still trying to make it work and are less open to doing a 'case by case' interpretation of the rule. I dont blame them.