Hyperion in October. No eVyros.

[Tol]

I would rather wait to buy more Elves than pay for travel to a con myself...

Yea, I spent over $400 on airfare for GenCon. Plus another $300+ on hotels, and I'm not even that close to the con, 6-7 miles from downtown Indy.

When I did the math I was like... wait a minute... I could have bought six Hyperions for that!

I've never been to GenCon, I hope it's worth it! lol

[Kallas]

My god is Hyperion ugly. My wallet is happy (as far as an empty wallet can be.)

And Arc Node discs not being Arc Nodes: they shouldn't be the same design then. Grrr...

[PG_lars4life]

My god is Hyperion ugly. My wallet is happy (as far as an empty wallet can be.)

And Arc Node discs not being Arc Nodes: they shouldn't be the same design then. Grrr...

HA!
I've got it!
I wont put on the useless disks and add my extra Shoulder pad there!

[bouncymischa]

Hmmm, there's a thought...

Presuming that the discs are supposed to be the Thresher Cannons, I should have some spare Vyre jack parts that I could replace them with to look more like guns...

[Xeurian]

Hmmm, there's a thought...

Presuming that the discs are supposed to be the Thresher Cannons, I should have some spare Vyre jack parts that I could replace them with to look more like guns...

I feel like those cannons will look REALLY small on the Hype...

My god is Hyperion ugly. My wallet is happy (as far as an empty wallet can be.)

And Arc Node discs not being Arc Nodes: they shouldn't be the same design then. Grrr...

Horray! I get the Hyperion you wont buy... Flawless logic I swear!

HA!
I've got it!
I wont put on the useless disks and add my extra Shoulder pad there!

TRIPLE PADS! (The shoulders already look like they have two tiers of pads on there...)

[bouncymischa]

I feel like those cannons will look REALLY small on the Hype...

Maybe... I'll have to see how it looks when I finally get it. The discs could be oversized versions of normal ones. Well, I'll work something out! :P

TRIPLE PADS!

(And now I'm getting Touhou songs stuck in my head... <.<; )

[Xeurian]

(And now I'm getting Touhou songs stuck in my head... <.<; )

I'm just glad I haven't been knifed yet after my last post...

[Tol]

If we're lucky Privateer will let us buy the Shoulderpads as bits.

Then dawg, we can have shoulderpads, on our shoulderpads, on our Arc Nodes that aren't Arc Nodes!

[Xeurian]

If we're lucky Privateer will let us buy the Shoulderpads as bits.

Then dawg, we can have shoulderpads, on our shoulderpads, on our Arc Nodes that aren't Arc Nodes!

Now I want to put those shoulder pads on a Phoenix... NOW THAT'S A HEAVY ARC NODE 'JACK!

[bouncymischa]

Now I want to put those shoulder pads on a Phoenix... NOW THAT'S A HEAVY ARC NODE 'JACK!

"Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my arc nodes!"

[joelker41]

It's not a 'Hyperion looks bad' as a model to me, just once again the studio color scheme combined with what looks like someone dragged the poor guy through dryer lint = he looks bad.

Thanks again for making another one of our models look ridiculous with a bad color scheme PP!

[Murkhadh]

I love the model and the paint job, I think its WAY cooler than the standard scheme.

[Jakal]

I love the model and the paint job, I think its WAY cooler than the standard scheme.

Me too, I'll pick up too and maybe repaint my other myrmidons.

[Lord Sessadore]

I'm going to have some figuring to do on what parts I want to do in what colours for mine ... I think I'm going to throw some green plates in with my usual black and grey I do on myrms.

About the thresher cannons, I think they're here:


It doesn't really look like it on the model, but the art in the book shows a thingy sticking out of that groove on either side that looks like it could be a gun to me. Kind of matches the secondary gun placement found on the other colossals, too.

Edit: If you check the 3d rotation, I think the gun (or whatever it is) shows a bit better on the other side of Hyperion.

[RetributionBomb]

It's not a 'Hyperion looks bad' as a model to me, just once again the studio color scheme combined with what looks like someone dragged the poor guy through dryer lint = he looks bad.

Thanks again for making another one of our models look ridiculous with a bad color scheme PP!

Huh? This is clearly not the normal studio color scheme, the weathered look adds a ton of character to the model while the other Myrmidons are just flat white. This is easily our best looking Warjack studio paint job wise.

[RetributionBomb]

It's not a 'Hyperion looks bad' as a model to me, just once again the studio color scheme combined with what looks like someone dragged the poor guy through dryer lint = he looks bad.

Thanks again for making another one of our models look ridiculous with a bad color scheme PP!

Huh? This is clearly not the normal studio color scheme, the weathered look adds a ton of character to the model while the other Myrmidons are just flat white. This is easily our best looking Warjack studio paint job wise. I wish they would redo ALL the Myrmidons in this style.

[rwould]

I'll be picking up two of these on release, think they look pretty good. But it is a shame to see an even longer wait until we get Vyros2.

[Baffler]

Damn, a real shame about Vyros. I guess that gives me more time to paint up my destors..

[Lord Sessadore]

Damn, a real shame about Vyros. I guess that gives me more time to paint up my destors..

I'm kind of still hoping Vyros will be at Gencon so I can get a ninja to pick him up for me, but that's not looking too likely now. Especially since Kraken was at L&L but not Gaspy3 - they seem to be focusing on getting the colossals through production before the casters. Ah well, he'll arrive eventually.

[phillipsjr4]

Damn, a real shame about Vyros. I guess that gives me more time to paint up my destors..

Just out of curiosity, why are people excited about eVyros with Destors?

[bouncymischa]

Just out of curiosity, why are people excited about eVyros with Destors?

From what I recall, eVyros' tier list makes Destors extremely fast first turn, so people have been (so far) fairly successful with using it as a jam list that can have Destors engaging the enemy near their own deployment zone.

[Demeritus]

Just out of curiosity, why are people excited about eVyros with Destors?

From some early playtests the theme force (v2 rocket as I call it) it handles some of our more problematic matchups such as eLylyth by being able to jam them so fast and combined with his feat it becomes very difficult to dislodge models because others can always step up to engage.

[Rogue Sun]

Just out of curiosity, why are people excited about eVyros with Destors?

His tier force gives Destors +2 Speed on first turn, makes them FA: U and 1 point less. So using 2-3 units of them you can run them first turn within 11" of your opponent's deployment zone, and use your feat, meaning they move 8" further in if someone dies. Most lists simply can't fight their way out of their own deployment zone while anything that DOES get through (which generally isn't much) gets cut down by ADing Sentinels and his warjacks, giving you an almost unparallelled advantage in winning via scenario.

[magi]

RE: the shoulder disks -

I think those things are Phoenix Field generators. Although the base model stats do not have Phoenix Field, the Hyperion does gain the ability when fielding 2 in Unbound. It could be that in Fluff or early model concept the Hyperion has a Phoenix Field, but in playtesting it was found to be unbalanced and they chose not to include the rule in the base stats (but fine for Unbound).

[magi]

Well that's quite the double post, there. Huh.

[bouncymischa]

Ahhh, that reminds me!

I consider that but they aren't attached to the arms (ruleswise).

Now that I've finally gotten ahold of Colossals for myself and had a look, I believe the Thresher Cannons are given L and R locations. I assume crippling the L and R systems on the grids would affect them as they do other arm-mounted guns (-1 die to attack and damage rolls), so couldn't the Thresher Cannons be considered to be attached to the arms?

[Xeurian]

RE: the shoulder disks -

I think those things are Phoenix Field generators. Although the base model stats do not have Phoenix Field, the Hyperion does gain the ability when fielding 2 in Unbound. It could be that in Fluff or early model concept the Hyperion has a Phoenix Field, but in playtesting it was found to be unbalanced and they chose not to include the rule in the base stats (but fine for Unbound).

Though I also feel as though they probably had the phoenix rule prior to testing, I believe you are forgetting the Aspis/Chimera with their association to the phoenix field/disks. The Aspis has no disks but has phoenix field. The Chimera has the disks but has no phoenix field, though it does have an arc node. I'm thinking the HYPERION might have also had an arc-node before testing. They probably made this guy REALLY good but ended up having to nerf him HARD.

[PG_Dawnlord Ed]

Hypnos does, in fact, have an arc node.

The discs are arc nodes. It's the only similarity between models that have them, Hyperion aside. They should never have been included on the model unless the artist was given poor information about the final intended rules block.

[Xeurian]

Hypnos does, in fact, have an arc node.

The discs are arc nodes. It's the only similarity between models that have them, Hyperion aside. They should never have been included on the model unless the artist was given poor information about the final intended rules block.

I meant Hyperion when I said Hypnos my bad...

[PG_Dawnlord Ed]

No worries, it happens.

[Falkman]

Hopefully they're separate parts so you can just leave them off.

[Tol]

Yea. I don't consider myself a "beardy gamer" but this is one of those "angry beardy gamer" moments for me.

Those are arc nodes.

Every bit of art and fluff before it established that those are Arcnodes and Hypnos for example has one right behind the head and has NO Field Boxes, so it's not like they can say that's for the field.

That's an arc node. Discs are arc nodes.

I love Privateer, but it was INCREDIBLY sloppy to include two giant arc nodes on the model but then at the same time not take them off when the rules no longer supported the Arc Nodes in play.

I too am likely going to try and model my Hyperion without them as they simply are, without a doubt in my mind, arc nodes.

[AJ the Ronin]

Ahhh, that reminds me!



Now that I've finally gotten ahold of Colossals for myself and had a look, I believe the Thresher Cannons are given L and R locations. I assume crippling the L and R systems on the grids would affect them as they do other arm-mounted guns (-1 die to attack and damage rolls), so couldn't the Thresher Cannons be considered to be attached to the arms?

I remeber that each cannon must be used on their respective arcs but I don't remember if they are actually tied to a system (you will loose a die if the system is crippled). Like I said my copy is on a friend house.

[Mastershake]

I remeber that each cannon must be used on their respective arcs but I don't remember if they are actually tied to a system (you will loose a die if the system is crippled). Like I said my copy is on a friend house.

They are.

[AJ the Ronin]

Aww crap...

[Lord Sessadore]

Yeah, they are on L and R.

If you look at the little fluff-stats block, though, you see that the blade fists are on the left and right arms, but it says the thresher cannons are on the left and right chassis. That's the reason for my hypothesis, anyway.