50pt Mohsar

[Obeisance]

Now that the 35pt tourney is over, it's time to start cranking out 50pt games. Have not played a single 50pt game with Cirlce yet.

Mohsar
- Megalith
- Gorax
- Pureblood
- Stalker
- Wilder
Blackclad
Gallows Grove
Stones, Stones, U/A
Gobbers
10 Trackers, Nuala.

Reinforcements.. either 5 Wolfriders, or 5 Gators and a Feralgeist?

Doesn't feel like enough heavies.

Ideas?

[OminousAfro]

This is kind of similar to my Mohsar list. In my experience I have found that min trackers/nuala works far better than max, simply on the merit that Pillars of Salt will actually protect a min unit whereas they will not completely cover a max. So what was happening in my games was the edge of my trackers would be snagged by errant AoE's or Chain Lightining-esque things.

I'm concerned with only 1 "heavy," Curse of Shadows/Gorax helps but I have found that I really hate it when things don't go quite right and I lose the Stalker. As such I included a second Stalker in my list, to ensure the animus remains.

My list looks like this:

Mohsar
Stalker
Stalker
Woldwarden
Gorax
Wilder

Min Trackers+Nuala
Stones + UA
Stones
Gobbers
Gallows Groves x 3
Lord of the Feast

[Sanctjud]

Yea, Mohsar is a tough one to decide what to get into his lists, I've had issues expanding out to 50 as well.

Mohsar
- Megalith
- Gorax
- Pureblood
- Stalker
- Wilder
Blackclad
Gallows Grove
Stones, Stones, U/A
Gobbers
10 Trackers, Nuala.

The list looks pretty solid. I've considered the Pureblood and the Circle Battle Engine for those 9 points.
With Mohsar leading, I'm not sure you 'need' the Wilder, as useful as she is.
At 50, I'm trying to fit in a Witch Doctor, but points are so tight already.

[MasterRabbi]

I've played a list like this to great effect. You're right in that it has few heavies. I found I had to be very protective of my Stalker, but yet be able to use him to crack armor. I used the Druids to help me in that regard, but Pillars is great for it too, especially in favorable terrain.

Remember that most casters will fall when they are the Bloodtracker's prey. If nothing else, the opponent finds it very frightening and can force him to get close to your army.

[Obeisance]

I'm not that keen on the Circle Engine. Don't get me wrong, I know it's a solid piece.. but I'd prefer to run more heavies.

I think lists with Colossals will tend to have 2-3 full infantry units and one as their only heavy. That said, I feel I should be running double Stalker because they are great at both roles.

Well. I'm gonna put Mohsar on the back burner until my AOEs from Advanced Deployment arrive. I don't have enough to run pillars. =p

[Sanctjud]

If I do invest in Mohsar and Circle, I'd convert acutal Sand pillars

Let us know how things go. Will you be doing trials on Vassal?

[Obeisance]

I ordered a bunch of rings from the Advanced Deployment sale that was just on.

And yeah. I'll probably be playing on Vassal. Picking up Circle has completely restored my enthusiasm with the game. Gonna play a couple of games with Mohsar Friday night against a friend.

... the guy who purchased my Legion. lol.

[PG_cheddercaveman]

I have a tough time building a Mohsar list that I like too, mostly because I want to put in just about all of the things. I like the Stalker + Gorax package with him especially with Colossals now being a thing. I feel like 2 Gallows Groves are auto-includes though, with 3 or 4 not being unreasonable.

After that though, so many options to go with. I like Bloodtrackers, Druids, Wolf Riders, Celestial Fulcrum, Wolves, Reeves, Wold Stalkers, Shifting Stones, Blackclads, Gnarlhorn, Megalith, Woldwarden, Pureblood, Bloodweavers (for dispel), Whitemanes. I can make cases for all of that being good, and man do I have a hard time distilling that down into a list at 50 points that has what I think it needs to have.

I do think I'd go with a Feral as my 2nd heavy before another Stalker though, unless maybe Ghetorix was available. Having at least one model with MAT 7 I think is kind of helpful. I debate the Gnarlhorn or Pureblood for the spot too though.

Gah! Too many things!

[Geoph86]

I just made this list at work and came on here for more ideas. Note I've never played the desertwalker before (I know *gasp*) and I don't own any wold stalkers, gallows groves, and only have one stalker. So how about this.

Moshar +5
-Gorax 4
-Gnarlhorn 8
-Stalker 10
-Megalith 11
-Druid Wilder 2
Blackclad 2
Druids of Orboros 7
-U/A 2
Shifting Stones 2
-U/A 1
Wolf Riders (min) 6

[Sanctjud]

I just made this list at work and came on here for more ideas. Note I've never played the desertwalker before (I know *gasp*) and I don't own any wold stalkers, gallows groves, and only have one stalker. So how about this.

Moshar +5
-Gorax 4
-Gnarlhorn 8
-Stalker 10
-Megalith 11
-Druid Wilder 2
Blackclad 2
Druids of Orboros 7
-U/A 2
Shifting Stones 2
-U/A 1
Wolf Riders (min) 6

I'm kinda meh on two points:
1. Min Wolf Riders...I've always been a 'max or bust' with the Cav in Warmahordes.
2. Expensive Sands of Fate options (though I know it's a play style issue, some people just ignore that spell).
_________

I dunno, Sands of Fate has been my favorite spell... I do realize it's a very expensive (risky) spell to use and is pretty corner case when it's desirable to use...
But, it feels so good killing Eyriss turn 1...

[Obeisance]

I played my first game with Mohsar last night. I ended up conceding, because I screwed up. I misread his feat- I thought it forced auto-frenzy. lol.

But, I learned a lot from the game. Mohsar is a really, really interesting caster and I intend to keep playing him. Postgame list tweaks ends up with this:

Mohsar
- Gorax
- Megalith
- Pureblood
- Stalker
- Wilder
10 Trackers, Nuala
Stones, Keeper
Stones
Gobbers
Blackclad
Grove
=50

5 Gators
Feralgeist
=10

I think I'm going to pair him with eKaya.

[Obeisance]

Double post.

[MantisZero]

After reading this, i figured i would just toss my list on here rather than making a new thread. I played Mohsar for the first time tonight, i ended up losing to a Xerxis brick toting Tiberion and a Sentry.

I ran:

Mohsar

Gorax
Megalith
Feral
Pureblood

Druids w/ UA
Max Wolves w/ UA
Stones w/ UA

2x Gallows Groves

We played the scenario where there are 2 small box zones in the middle of the table, you need to control the opponents to score. I think i was not as aggressive as i needed to be and i spent alot of time casting Pillars, but it was a bit tough cracking arm 21+ beasts clumped together. I am sure i had the tools, but i am new to the faction so i am still getting the feel for the synergy.

As for list tweaks, i am probably going to drop the Wolves to a min unit and upgrade one of the heavies to a Stalker (for some reach punch) and spend the last 2 points on another Stone unit, or solo (Wilder/Wayfarer).

Overall i liked the way he played, he plays like nothing i have played before and it is kinda intriguing.