New to Ret, 50pt Ossyan list

[NChomsky3d]

I'm new to Ret (but not Warmachine, I have a large Khador army), and I wanted to try out something new. This list seems pretty straight forward, shooting things (especially with the feat), using Nayl and pEiryss to muck with the enemy plans and using Discordia to escort things up the field. I like this list because I feel like I can switch out Ossyan for Ravyn and still have a decent list while playing slightly differently. I'd love some suggestions from more experienced players, however.

Ossyan
Pheonix
Discordia
Sylys

2x Arcanist
pEiryss
2x Ghost Snipers
2x Mage Hunter Assassin
10 Mage Hunter Strike Force
10 Mage Hunter Strike Force
-UA
-1 Soulless Escort
Nayl

[Murkhadh]

I'm new to Ret (but not Warmachine, I have a large Khador army), and I wanted to try out something new. This list seems pretty straight forward, shooting things (especially with the feat), using Nayl and pEiryss to muck with the enemy plans and using Discordia to escort things up the field. I like this list because I feel like I can switch out Ossyan for Ravyn and still have a decent list while playing slightly differently. I'd love some suggestions from more experienced players, however.

Ossyan
Pheonix
Discordia
Sylys

2x Arcanist
pEiryss
2x Ghost Snipers
2x Mage Hunter Assassin
10 Mage Hunter Strike Force
10 Mage Hunter Strike Force
-UA
-1 Soulless Escort
Nayl

for starters, never use Nayl you have at least 4 other things that are all better than him, hes easily tied for worst thing in the faction.

the mhsf is amazing with the UA and blah without them, always bring the UA which means generally only one unit of them.


after the mhsf, bring a heavy pounder, stormfalls or invictors to do the heavy hittng on the feat turn.

Also Ossyan wants a Banshee and Hypnos in his battle group.

[MMMMK]

What Murk said is good advice. I'd also probably take p.Eyriss out of the list since she doesn't gain much from Ossyan and doesn't provide him with too much either. A much better option is her epic form. Similarly the Ghost Snipers don't support Ossyan's play style very well and I'd drop them in favor of something else (Destor Thane ect.).

I think that the battlegroup you have with Ossyan is fine but Banshee and Hypnos are also really good choices. The second MHSF unit is a bit of a waste but they are still Arcane Assassins so if you have the models already, I think they'll work fine. Invictors would be ideal, imo, because they also offer some melee power to the list which is otherwise totally shooty (and has some big counters in the form of stealth lists).

[Murkhadh]

What Murk said is good advice. I'd also probably take p.Eyriss out of the list since she doesn't gain much from Ossyan and doesn't provide him with too much either. A much better option is her epic form. Similarly the Ghost Snipers don't support Ossyan's play style very well and I'd drop them in favor of something else (Destor Thane ect.).

I think that the battlegroup you have with Ossyan is fine but Banshee and Hypnos are also really good choices. The second MHSF unit is a bit of a waste but they are still Arcane Assassins so if you have the models already, I think they'll work fine. Invictors would be ideal, imo, because they also offer some melee power to the list which is otherwise totally shooty (and has some big counters in the form of stealth lists).

If eEiryss is already in a diff list, pEiryss isn't bad, the combo of arcantrik bolt and disruption pretty much makes a jack useless for a turn.

[5-Cents]

My 2 cents is to drop 2nd MHSF and Nayl and put in 2 unit of Stormfalls

[darkenn]

I played Ossyan on ETC this year, and he made me proud. You REALLY need the "BOOOM" one round, and be able to hold of for the rest of the game.

You need:

Hypnos
Banshee

"eEyriss"
full MHSF + UA
Stormfall Archers ( had two groups in my list)
2x Ghost Snipers are REALLY good
Arcanist

You can fill out the rest on youre own, but you need a melee unit, I used Halb`s, that can take a punsh, and give one.

[Murkhadh]

I played Ossyan on ETC this year, and he made me proud. You REALLY need the "BOOOM" one round, and be able to hold of for the rest of the game.

You need:

Hypnos
Banshee

"eEyriss"
full MHSF + UA
Stormfall Archers ( had two groups in my list)
2x Ghost Snipers are REALLY good
Arcanist

You can fill out the rest on youre own, but you need a melee unit, I used Halb`s, that can take a punsh, and give one.

Minus the ghost snipers, and eEiryss is optional, this is becoming "Thee Ossyan List" as in hypnos banshee mhsf, halbs and stormfalls forming the core