Of Galleon, Theme Forces, and Ensuing Hilarity...

[MagnustheJust]

I have noticed a lot of threads about our impending colossal, mentioning whether or not Galleons are usable in 'X' theme force. To this end, I have decided to list all the warcaster theme forces that our colossal is eligible for. Please feel free to humorously rip me a new one for any grievous errors in the list, which I shall remedy as fast as inhumanly possible...

EDIT : As requested by some, I am including a clipped version of any tier bonuses that effect the Galleon.

YES YOU CAN!! ..

Ashlynn D'Elyse - Viva La Résistance

Fiona the Black - Devil to Pay
T3 - 4+ units, start with upkeeps, free for 1st turn

Drake MacBain!! - Soldiers of Fortune
T3 - 4+ solos, start with upkeeps, free for 1st turn
T4 - 2+ Nomads, battlegroup gains advanced move

Magnus the Traitor - Most Wanted
T3 - 3+ warjacks, wreck marker equal to base size of BG warjacks
T4 - 2 Renegades, start game with upkeeps on BG

Magnus the Warlord - Magnus' Agenda
T4 - 2+ Manglers, +2 inches to deployment zone

Captain Bartolo Montador - Rough Seas

Captain Phinneus Shae - A Pirate's Life
T4 - 3+ warjacks, BG gains +2 SPD on first turn

Captain Amador Damiano - Free Company
T4 - BG includes Rocinante, start with upkeeps, free for 1st turn

Captain Phinneus Shae - Agent of Jhord


NEGATIVE !! ..

Gorten Grundback - The Hammerfall Irregulars
Durgen Madhammer - Shock & Awe
General Ossram - State of War
Magnus the Warlord - Bad Seeds

[PG_vytzka]

Captain Phinneus Shae - Agent of Jhord

I do not have NQ #42 on hand, so I am unsure of the wording of the warjack allowances at this time...

It's "mercenary non-character warjacks". So yeah.

And, I mean, it's a freaking Galleon.

[MagnustheJust]

Fair enough... I'll get my tool belt & fix it right now!!

[PG_hendybadger]

Can wait for Galleon in A Pirates Life!

[baronvonchaos]

Here's my question. In Colossals, 3mo's tier says specifically "Stormwall..." So I wonder if they will be classified as Colossals or named ("Galleon") in tier lists to make them available.

I really want to run Most Wanted with a giant colossal wreck marker on the field for my idrians to hide in, but alas. I'm just not sure.

[Cambeul]

N3mo's Tier Requirements asks you to field a Stormwall.

Not under Army restrictions, unless you are getting it mixed up with the Storm Strider BE.

I cannot believe the Galleon is not Amphibious.

[ColdYinTiger]

I am surprised by it, but it is unlikely the thing needs it mechanic wise. It does seem odd that fluff wise it doesn't have it though.

[canadianone]

well, the buccaneer doesn't have it or lash, which is funny as the fluff piece even talks about how its was made more steady with better ankles.

[PG_vytzka]

well, the buccaneer doesn't have it or lash, which is funny as the fluff piece even talks about how its was made more steady with better ankles.

Well there's a limit of what you can fit on a 3 point jack.

[baronvonchaos]

Well there's a limit of what you can fit on a 3 point jack.

I agree, but steady on a 3pt jack just to keep up with the fluff isn't OMGB0RKEN! It doesn't need lash mind you, but i can't imagine why it wouldn't have steady.

Anywho, that's OT.
Galleon. I want one. So does the Magnus', Macbain!, Fiona, Bart, Shae, Damiano, Constance, and...

[MagnustheJust]

I cannot believe the Galleon is not Amphibious.

Galleon is like 9,000,000 tons of steel, coal, and angriness...

He's to fat to float!!

[ColdYinTiger]

Well, amphibious is less about floating and more about not drowning, and not having the furnace go out.

[MagnustheJust]

You can't knock colossals down anyway, and they have not so much pathfinder as "these bushes {read trees} are in my way"...

So same difference really.

*shrug*

[ColdYinTiger]

You can't knock colossals down anyway, and they have not so much pathfinder as "these bushes {read trees} are in my way"...

So same difference really.

*shrug*

Pretty much this.

[Ger]

I agree, but steady on a 3pt jack just to keep up with the fluff isn't OMGB0RKEN! It doesn't need lash mind you, but i can't imagine why it wouldn't have steady.

The Buccaneer is an assaulting assassination run set up piece with 17" threat range ignoring target in melee penalties for 3 points. Any rule that makes it more reliable is a strong one. Being KD immune would add to it's reliability and be worth almost 1 point itself. KD immunity and a little better Gaff, maybe 1 point of defense and/or arm, definitely would make it 4 points. As it is it may be undercosted at 3 points.

[daveholliday]

Might be worth listing next to each theme force what benefit there is for the Galleon in the theme force (assuming tier 4 or something).
For example with Most Wanted the Galleon could start game with upkeeps. But there is no benefit from Ashlynn's theme force because colossals cant advance deploy.

Or it could be organised like.....
Damiano
T2: extra 2" deployment.
T4: could start game with an upkeep.

MacBain - Soldiers of Fortune
T3: could start game with an upkeep.
T4: maybe?? gain advance move?. I know they cant advance outside of normal movement. But advance move is before the game even starts.

Ashlynn D'Elyse - Viva La Résistance
No usable tier benefit.

[MagnustheJust]

Might be worth listing next to each theme force what benefit there is for the Galleon in the theme force (assuming tier 4 or something).
For example with Most Wanted the Galleon could start game with upkeeps. But there is no benefit from Ashlynn's theme force because colossals cant advance deploy.

I'll fix that in a little bit... It's time for dinner, and my turn to cook.

[daveholliday]

Enjoy your dinner :-)

[baronvonchaos]

Most Wanted also gets a wreck marker to throw out there. I'm totally getting idrians for that wreck marker. Cover and Camouflage... Def 19.

Heck even Kell would love it. He'd then have super high def and stealth...

[daveholliday]

Most Wanted also gets a wreck marker to throw out there. I'm totally getting idrians for that wreck marker. Cover and Camouflage... Def 19.

Heck even Kell would love it. He'd then have super high def and stealth...

The Idrians do benefit from the huge wreck.
However Kell wouldn't gain Stealth, because a wreck marker provides rough terrain and cover, unfortunately Prowl triggers off concealment.

[MagnustheJust]

Added the tier benefits that apply, except for Shae's alternate theme force... I don't have that No Quarter. If someone could PM me the tier 3 and 4 requirements & benefits, I will add them if they fit the Galleon into their parameters.

[daveholliday]

Fiona's T4 benefit doesn't work on Galleon as colossals cannot gain stealth :-(

I'll have a look at Shae's alternate theme force when i get home.

[MagnustheJust]

Fiona's T4 benefit doesn't work on Galleon as colossals cannot gain stealth :-(

I'll have a look at Shae's alternate theme force when i get home.

Righty ho!! I'l get my hammer then...

[daveholliday]

Shae's Agent of Thingamebob T4 needs 2 amphibious jacks to gain 2"deployment.