SR2012 lists advise plylyth, ethags & saeryn 50pts

[SgtAntenor]

Looking for some advise on what lists to be running at a local tournament thats happening at the end of the month. Got 3 lists in mind and I need help narrowing it down and refineing somewhat.

List 1:
Thagrosh, the Messiah (*3pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Carnivean (11pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
Blighted Ogrun Warmongers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
2 Spell Martyrs (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)

List 2:
Lylyth, Herald of Everblight (*6pts)
* Nephilim Bolt Thrower (6pts)
* Carnivean (11pts)
* Ravagore (10pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
Warmonger War Chief (3pts)

List 3
Saeryn, Omen of Everblight (*5pts)
* Nephilim Bolt Thrower (6pts) (mainly in after really needing a source of pathfinder on saeryn in the last game)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Carnivean (11pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
Blighted Ogrun Warmongers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
1 Spell Martyr (1pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)

Not much more to say other than I've not got a great amount of other models bar what you see in the lists, basically comes down to having Abby and Rhyas, and full unit of warmongers, a third forsaken, 2nd carnivean and some more shredders.

[Episkopos]

Are you bored running Absylonia? The models you own seen to favor her.
Also, did you use the plastic kits for any of those? If so, you might do well to Head Swap you second Carnivean for a Ravagore.

[MeniteTom]

Lack of Angelii really hurts the Saeryn list (and any Absylonia list for that matter)

[SgtAntenor]

I've got to be honest and say that I'm not really the greatest fan of angelii, though I will admit I have jsut put one on order...

As for Abby, well I've only really played the one game with her a long while back but I do keep being tempted with running her teir4 just most of the lists I like end up needing a 4th forsaken.

[MeniteTom]

You don't need a fourth Forsaken. Hell, I only run two, even at 50 points (plus a Shepherd). The Angelius is essential in the Absylonia list because there is no better target for Forced Evolution. Having a DEF 17 heavy (with Tenacity) is stupid awesome.

[rexim]

In eThag list I would probably drop warmongers for a seraph, its awsome with eThag
pLylyth list would be better with one easy change put pThag in there in stead of her
Saeryn list, drop Nep BT, bring swamp gobbos then you don't need to move in terrain to get def 21 Feralgeist is also a solid choice with her Then bring more then 1 spell martyr, at least 2 but I would rather bring 3 with her. And I would drop warmongers here as well and bring an angel, it is awsome in scenario play.

[SgtAntenor]

The simple problem with those ideas atm is the fact that I don't own a seraph, or pthags, or swamp gobbos, do we sense a pattern here...

[rexim]

Yea i do well then what do we have to work with? And i was not really serious about pLylyth just because she have failed me one to many times(had some epic times where she missed twice during feat on anything but ones will hit) and me and her have a real hate relationship does not mean no one should play her. But I think a seraph would be a really good buy. The difference in threat range is significant for eThag and pLylyth.

[SgtAntenor]

Aye I do agree that the seraph would be a good buy in the future, just bought an angelius so giving it some time before I get some more. As for the lists I've pretty much reworked it all and settled on a saeryn and abby list, had to submit them last friday so not much I can do about them now

[rexim]

Well share with the class I'm curious

[SgtAntenor]

List 1:
Winds of Change Tier 4
Absylonia, Terror of Everblight (*5pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Angelius (8pts)
* Carnivean (10pts)
* Ravagore (9pts)
* Scythean (8pts)
* Scythean (8pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)

List 2:
Saeryn, Omen of Everblight (*5pts)
* Shredder (2pts)
* Angelius (9pts)
* Carnivean (11pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
* Scythean (9pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd (1pts)
2 Spell Martyrs (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
Strider Deathstalker (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
The Forsaken (2pts)
Warmonger War Chief (3pts)

Yeah there are some tweeks that could be made but overall I'm pretty happy with both lists.