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    Default If and when Karchev goes Epic, a possible game mechanic idea.

    We all know its going to happen. Karchev is well on his way to Epicness. Hopefully PP will keep him as a jack caster, but after reading the recent fluff and giving it some thought, I came up with an interesting mechanic that an Epic Karchev could employ. What if for the first time, we saw a Warmachine caster with the ability to use a Fury game mechanic. What if through shear force of his awesome Will, even if only for a feat turn, eKarchev could force a warjack into action beyond that of its focus limitations, but there should be a downside to this as well. I thought that Khador already had a great mechanic in faction for this in the Berserker WJ. By tapping into such a power Karchev could unleash a WJ's full potential, but at the risk of corrupting its cortex. For each "forcing" eKarchev does, after the WJ activation ends, roll a dice and you must roll above the number of "forcings" or the WJ blows up.

    Sure this mechanic would need play-testing and some tweaking, but I thought it was an interesting idea that had some potential. Just figured I would see what the Kahdor community thought of the idea.

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    I like it thematically. A lot.

    As you say tweaking would be needed, but it is a very cool idea.

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    yes. that is something I would like to see and I sincerely hope that PP listens to you.

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    id soooo love this. pure awesome. and id use zerkers! cuz they gonna blow anyways!
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    I really like this idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhaosSpectyr View Post
    id soooo love this. pure awesome. and id use zerkers! cuz they gonna blow anyways!
    This. And if eKarchev still had unearthly rage, this ability would be broken beyond all belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sining View Post
    This. And if eKarchev still had unearthly rage, this ability would be broken beyond all belief.
    Only if:
    1) We have some means of getting out of normal advance movement on our jacks (beat back, side step, run riot, etc...)
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    2) Our opponents are making silly mistakes like putting two heavy jacks within 3" of eachother.

    You wind up in the same situation as Behemoth with 3 focus. He almost never needs it. He wrecks most jacks in 3 hits on average dice, 4 if you roll a bit under. The only time you need to give Big-B 3 focus with Karchev is when you're trying to take down a Colossal, or there are two heavies standing right next to eachother in Big-B's charge range.

    That said, he won't have the fury system, it will still be focus as the amount of game mechanics that would have to be altered would be insane.

    The blowing up thing I could see. Probably as part of his feat. Similar to Reznik's take a wound/do a wound feat. "Friendly models boxed in this models control range explode. Enemy models within 3" of the boxed model take an unboostable POW 14 damage roll." or something of the like. A highly defensive feat that basically makes your opponent say, "Holy crap! He's REALLY angry!!!"

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    Im not sure if they will keep Unearthly Rage as eKarchev's signature spell. Sad, but true. I can see them keeping Ground Zero as he has been using it a lot lately in the fluff, plus if he does become a huge based caster, then that spell has a lot more potential, even more so if they put a small range modifier on it.

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    If he's huge based, he certainly won't get Ground Zero! You'd have to be B2B to affect anyone...

    I'm all for a feat that causes lots of explosions though.
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    A feat that ground zeros all your warjacks!
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    What if instead of staying a warcaster, Karchev becomes a character warjack - the brain in the machine, too far gone to persist with humanity? Something like Avatar, a more-or-less free willed warjack?

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    Maybe instead of FURY, just let him allocate focus at any time. Give him 7+3 Focus, 3 that can only be allocated on warjacks. Sort of like a Harbinger for warjacks. The maximum amount of focus he could spend per turn on any single jack is 3.

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    i had a cool idea for his feat. all jacks in his battlegroup get effect of the spell failsafe and plus to movment on a charge slame trample. you also charge and slame and trample for free

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