Morvahna 2 Theory / Wishlist

[kaneblaise]

I'm curious as to what people wantto see from her. My only real hope is that her goat is light cav, being the first (I think?) light cav caster. Let her move up, sling some spells, then light cav back.

A bit of a stretch that I wouldn't mind seeing is Ritual Sarifice and Revive. Kill off a trooper to gain d6 Fury and use it to bring back Tharn Ravagers or Skin Walkers would be fun.

I expect her to keep Sac Pawn to make her large base more defensible. This is another reason I'd like light cav on her, as she could move, cast spells and what not, then light cav move near some Sac Parn models.

I also hope she gets an offensive armor debuff like Morv1 had in MKI and either Dash or a +2 arm buff.

That's pretty much my list, what do you all want?

[Hal Gill]

Fruit.

Tokens.

[DeusxMachina]

Delicious fruit tokens.

In all seriousness though I wouldn't be surprised to see her Eruption of Life spell turned into a standard range attack, possibly with a ROF above 1, but I wouldn't expect it.

[Jake the Dog]

I see her on a mountain goat. I want to see some form if Jump/Leap in there.
I bet her Theme list will require a Satyr or 2.

[Ruan]

Heh. Just simply having a Light Cav caster's going to be silly with Lightning Strike. Assuming she keeps Equinox (Harrow+Reach), you could be looking at an ability for her (assuming a SPD 8 at least - likely for Light Cav) to charge 11", threatening 13", at a warrior next to a heavy - kill the warrior with the charge attack, buy a swing at the heavy to trigger Harrow, and then Sprint+Lightning Strike 13" (8"+5") right back where you were - that's a lot of mobility.

And that's before adding any spells or Jump or anything else. If she got Jump, it'd be 8"+5" place for a 15" threat, with a 13" retreat.

Really... just having her as Light Cav with access to Sprint - or at least, we assume Light Cav - is going to make her one of the most innately maneuverable casters in the game. Assuming she's charging her max 11" and then Lightning Striking+Light Cav 13" away, that's 24" the caster can move... while still doing her full activation worth of spellcasting/attacking.

I do see her having Sacrificial Pawn, as noted above - use your movement to move into a unit of Shifting Stones, or into a crowd of Wolves.

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Spell-wise... taking the above into account, we'll never get Refuge on her. I don't think the game is quite ready for a Refuging, Sprinting, Light Cavalry caster. Similarly, pretty much any straight SPD or movement buffs are unlikely for similar reasons.

[Vicomte Athos]

I don't see her being Light cav. Normal Cav is what I am betting on. A Light Cav circle caster jut screams OP to me. She would have to be gimp in melee for that to work.

[Hal Gill]

In all seriousness I don't have anything specific I want her to have except that I want to see something really unique and fun. I want other players to be all 'wait, she does *what*?' when she first hits the table.

[kaneblaise]

I can't see any obvious weapon on her from the available picture, and I can't imagine she can swing a sword with any kind of effectiveness side-saddle (I know fluff doesn't equal rules, but still). She's not exactly that effective at melee in her current form, and it looks like she's only getting worse at that if anything.

As such I'm expecting / hoping she's a highly mobile spell caster.

As for speed buffs, she could have a speed buff that requires "beginning their activation in this model's control area" so that she can not benefit, but I don't really expect even that.

[Dagowit]

Domination gave us two Warlocks with new play styles (both being pretty durable) so maybe Morvahna2 will continue the trend and give us buffs for ranged units? The Tharn Archers are coming up and everyone has been complaining about Reeves needing spell support...

What I really want, though, is an infantry support Warlock with some non-upkeep spells (like Bloodlust or Deadeye).

[PG_fildrigar]

Reeves don't need spell support, they need to be completely redone. Any ranged spell support would be far more effective on any of our other ranged models.

[Blackraine]

Fruit.

Tokens.

Indeed... I want my delicious fruit tokens back!

[kaneblaise]

Reeves don't need spell support, they need to be completely redone. Any ranged spell support would be far more effective on any of our other ranged models.

An elite cadre on an otherwise solid caster could do it. The core unit itself really isn't missing THAT much, just one decent ability could help them out greatly. But yeah, spell support probably won't help too much.

On another, related, note, Morvahna has never really screamed "I support ranged units". I expect the Bowmen to have Forestwalker, which will let them see through forests, which Morvahna does have a tendency to create. So I could see her getting some sort of forest generation. Personally, I would like her to have a spell that grants a model/unit Fertilizer and either +2 Arm or Str.

To further that thought, I want her to continue to support infantry in some way. Preferably in an offensive way. If she must give us a new play style, I'd like her to give us a way to really use infantry decently well. Morvahna1 can play with as few beasts as a single Gorax and still use all of her fury twice a turn. But this kind of list lacks the punch to really accomplish anything (believe me, I've tried). I don't expect Morv2 to give us the ability to run an infantry-only list, but being able to play a beast-minimal list very effectively would be cool. This would require her to be able to increase the damage output of infantry, since we have quite soft-hitting infantry in melee. Or maybe Revive + Tharn Ravagers would be good enough? I don't know HOW I want this to be accomplished, but that is the direction I'd like her to go.

And obviously some good offensive spells. But I think that's a given.

[Forums lol]

People who want revive have obviously never played the Testament lol. I'd like to see Blood Fury. Maybe a cloud or forest effect with an auto point of damage. Stupid weaponmasters...

[Asdrubael]

People who want revive have obviously never played the Testament lol. I'd like to see Blood Fury. Maybe a cloud or forest effect with an auto point of damage. Stupid weaponmasters...

Terrible spell, revive. I really hope we aren't given that in exchange for regrowth.

[jhon]

A NQ list for her reflecting the changes in force could easily be fun and refreshing as well. I mean didn't krueger take her favorite tharn chief? Reeves, WoW, and force focus of ....skin walkers? satyrs?
maybe I'm wrong but isn't harvest and eruption of life her signature spells? a purification spell would be fluffy and would be something we do not have yet. Here's a cool mental image: have her on a medium base "riding" an earthen wave (or construct). a spell creating a wave of rock with knock down would be fun and usefull.losing her upkeep weakness would be appreciated as well. either way I would love a spell slinging denial warlock that can bring lots of infantry like she can do now. horde infantry that can deal with the current swing to heavy's and bigger.

[Nuriochi_sol]

I agree with Hal Gill - I want something with a solid *** factor, that will make my opponents scratch their heads in confusion.

Oh, and DELICIOUS FRUIT TOKENS! See sig...

[Hal Gill]

I agree with Hal Gill - I want something with a solid *** factor, that will make my opponents scratch their heads in confusion.

Oh, and DELICIOUS FRUIT TOKENS! See sig...

There is no reason it cannot be both things. In fact, that might be the easiest way forward.

[Bradigus]

I want her to have some method of gathering tokens to go over her FURY stat and have Revive. Whether that's soul tokens or something new, I don't care. I want an ARM Debuff (Parasite anyone?).

I'd like her to have some method of healing multi-wound infantry models with a spell, spending tokens or a feat.

A solid infantry buff spell that increases DEF.

[jhon]

A character beast with affinity.

[Elros]

1. I'd love if Morvahna were either a light cav caster or had jump. Both'd be great.
2. Some nice elite cadre or smthing would be also nice.
3. But MOSTLY I'd love if she had Purification/Lamentation/Hex Blast. We need some upkeep hate that is other than woldwyrd, you know, something to just dispel the most annoying upkeeps.